Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: huisme on February 10, 2015, 02:43:20 pm
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Average width: 1"
Greatest width: 11/4"
Nocks: 7/16"
Length tip to tip: 56"
Length nock to nock: 55"
Draw: 51#@28"
Walnut overlays over single-pin nocks, tug-oil finish, sixteen strand green/black dynaflight-97 string, staryed with 1/2" reflex and ended with 11/2" of string follow.
Made this for a guy who wanted the look and didn't mind some set ??? I spent a lot of time making sure this thing didn't chrysal and I'm telling you the smooth shooting makes it worth it! I only got to shoot it for a few days but it was a real joy. Guy wanted the nocks and an open back wrap and jute pass after seeing Blaflair's first bow, but liked the look of my little rabbit shooter and didn't give up even after three long messages explaining set and string follow ::)
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Sweet bow! Love the walnut overlays!
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Huisme,
Nice bend man, Ya know I aint a grip wrap kinda guy but that bow is nice. Now that you have built some skinny-shorties, what's your opinion of the whole "hand shock" thing and "mediocure" performance. Seems like you built a fine hunting bow to me.
rich
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Cool skinny bow. You sure do like your single pin nocks don't you? ;)
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Looks really nice. You are pulling 28" at [nock to nock: 55"] thats great I have some BL drying how long did you dry it for and how did you dry the wood. ?
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Noice! that thing sure is skinny, sweet bow
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Huisme,
Nice bend man, Ya know I aint a grip wrap kinda guy but that bow is nice. Now that you have built some skinny-shorties, what's your opinion of the whole "hand shock" thing and "mediocure" performance. Seems like you built a fine hunting bow to me.
rich
Hand shock? Hasn't happened to me yet, but I've pretty comfortable making some tiny tips. I'm a big believer in keeping my bows short for the crazy cast I get, and these skinny numbers are just a smack in the face of the myth that locust MUST be wide ;) >:D It would have been easier if I'd told the guy I had to make it wide, and it probably would have taken half the set, but look at it! It works! ;D
Looks really nice. You are pulling 28" at [nock to nock: 55"] thats great I have some BL drying how long did you dry it for and how did you dry the wood. ?
I just kept it out of the rain for most of its life, nothing actually done to help it along. When I got it in the house I just left it on a rack at room temperature and only slightly lower humidity (Washington). It was just a touch wet the first time I heat treated it, nothing that would have been a problem. I'm sure the toasted belly was a big part of keeping this thing working ;)
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that is a beautiful bow. I LOVE this style of bow and I'm trying my best to emulate it (I take a lot of inspiration from half eye's shorties too, thanks half eye). There is just something that speaks to me in these shorter, bend through the handle bows - the simplicity and look are just awesome. That's a great one Huisme!
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Pic heavy my butt Marc! Your missing the only pic that matters man. 28" drawn or bust! That braced profile looks wonky compared to it unbraced. Whats up?
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The outer 2/3s of both limbs look very flat at brace... the right being worse. A full draw shot would be valuable.
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I love short black locust bendy handle bows and narrow will work if its good quality locust, I've had both good and bad staves of it. I like to make sure it is good and dry before bending it to keep set at a minimum as well as some heat treating along the way. Works with my 24" draw but I don't think I could get 28" out of one at that length, good on you for making that one bend that far with no chrysals. Lets see her bend.
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You did very well. I tried my hand with black locust a couple of months ago. Made a 64" inch recurve with 1 3/4 inch wide limbs and kept the belly flat. Put about 100 arrows through it and it chrysaled along one entire limb. Shot great though. I gave it to a friend as a wall hanger for her lakeside cabin.
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Looks nice, but we gotta see her bend man!
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another nice one Huisme
Love the single nocks! have to try them soon
keep pushing black locust R&D to the limits ;)
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Ya what Gordon said, these guys that can pull these BL shorties 55 n-n @28 draw and not get frets amaze me ???
Pappy
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Ive found BL to vary so greatly from tree to tree you would think it was a different wood. Greg has a batch you'd think was osage. His bows are all built as if they where osage and act the same. That batch is excellent bow wood.
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Nice bow, great draw and tiller.
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That's a sharp bow love those knocks
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"Hand shock? Hasn't happened to me yet, but I've pretty comfortable making some tiny tips. I'm a big believer in keeping my bows short for the crazy cast I get, and these skinny numbers are just a smack in the face of the myth that locust MUST be wide ;) >:D It would have been easier if I'd told the guy I had to make it wide, and it probably would have taken half the set, but look at it! It works! ;D "
Meh, It's too short to worry about handshock. You might have gotten a little more bend out of it further along the limb (but, I understand why you didn't. ;) )
Looks really nice. And if you go much wider, then you have to start working in a narrowed handle, and it messes the whole thing up.
I do NOT undertand the appeal of those flat, square handles, though. (One of my shortcomings, "sigh".) I would have to build up back and front with leather, but still let it bend. One of the main reasons I don't get around to making many bendy handles.
Locust gets underestimated a lot. I have recurved it, bamboo backed it, all kinds of stuff. The problem is only that you think it is going to be amazing, and it turns out to be merely exceptional. ;D
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Ive found BL to vary so greatly from tree to tree you would think it was a different wood. Greg has a batch you'd think was osage. His bows are all built as if they where osage and act the same. That batch is excellent bow wood.
You're absolutely right. The locust from my old property got its butt kicked by the wind all the time and makes bows like these, where some stuff "I got out of the middle of a small patch haven't even made it onto these forums because they just don't feel like anything special.
I'm working on the full draw guys ;) The outers are a bit stiff because they start to narrow a little past halfway from the grip, but the bend does make it right out to the tips. It's smooth shooting so I decided I wouldn't scrape away a good thing ::)
Heat treating is a big help in keeping the chrysalis away. On one test I tillered a one foot locust stick to three inches, heat treated half of it and adjusted tiller, and then yanked on it to see where the chrysalis show up and guess which side was ready to fold over before the other had chrysals ;D
Locust gets underestimated a lot. I have recurved it, bamboo backed it, all kinds of stuff. The problem is only that you think it is going to be amazing, and it turns out to be merely exceptional.
I'll admit when I got this order I said to myself, "Self, I'd sure like some osage right now; this is what that stuff grows for." It certainly would have taken less set but I can't call this a bad bow ;D
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come on i need to see a fd pic please
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I do NOT undertand the appeal of those flat, square handles, though. (One of my shortcomings, "sigh".) I would have to build up back and front with leather, but still let it bend. One of the main reasons I don't get around to making many bendy handles.
If a person,uses a full grip,as i call it,then what you say is completely understandable.If a person uses a partial grip,where the bow rest on the meat of the thumb,and the fingers rest on the bows back,then it works much better,with less thump and it gets your arm further out of the way of the string.
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OH!!!!
And nice bow by the way.
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OH!!!!
And nice bow by the way.
Thank you ;)
You're right about the grip, I keep the tip of my middle finger and thumb gently pressed together to catch the bow, and if you make your tips light enough that's all you should need >:D ;D
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Where is the full draw picture? Its just a fancy stick unless we see it bending ;D
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Where is the full draw picture? Its just a fancy stick unless we see it bending ;D
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If a person,uses a full grip,as i call it,then what you say is completely understandable.If a person uses a partial grip,where the bow rest on the meat of the thumb,and the fingers rest on the bows back,then it works much better,with less thump and it gets your arm further out of the way of the string.
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That is actually just about how I grip. I don't grab a full fingered fist around a handle. I promise, it's not you, ......it's me.....
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I know guys, still working on it. No photographers for a little bit, might be able to get a little help tomorrow-- which would be nice because I have two more to photograph.
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When no ones around I film myself then take screen shots. Or use a timer on the camera. Works pretty good
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I have a poershot A510, no timer and a butt about vids, so it's really only good for the photos I take. I'll have that iPhone eventually though ::)
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Nice job man. You sure do a good job with that locust.