Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: RBLusthaus on December 30, 2014, 05:09:57 pm
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I know many of you are dog owners, so I hope you can help me out with some of your hard earned knowledge. My family recently got a dog - and since I never had had one before, I feel a little over my head (my kids were easier to deal with, I think) - anyway we got a 10 month old yellow lab mutt from the pound - and want to set up a wireless fence so the dog can run off the leash. Do any of you have such a fence? Do they work? Reliable? Best brand or other advice you think I need?
Russ
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I cant help you with make or model but i did build a pool for a Dr and his wife and they had one and it did work, you can also use a training collar ,, i know labs are a little hard headed but they are great dogs and if you are going to be out when he is get a collar, start low on the settings and just go up till it gets his attention, after awhile all u need to do is put the collar on, they are smart and figure it out fast
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X2 on what bub said. I have a hard headed german shepherd and her obedience increased 10 fold once i bought a e-collar. Buy a good one and learn how to properly use it. She knows when the collor is on i mean business. Just remember if you don't catch them and can't correct them instantly you are to late. A e-collar allows you correct them across the yard. Chasing them around the yard is the worst thing you could do, they think its a game. Plus you never are able to catch them!
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My sister had an underground fence for their saint bernard. It worked and kept it her in the yard. They only had one problem with it. Whenever there was a lightening storm the dog would get scared and run to the neighbors house for some reason. That was the only time she would cross the fence. When they installed it they put little flags along side it. That was a visible clue to the dog that when they got close to the flags it would shock them. After a while they took the flags down and the dog new where the boundary was.
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We have one that is a petsmart with a 90 ft radius from the transmitter. The collars have a three month battery . It keeps dogs near that weren't use to it so in my opinion it works for what we wanted. Ozzy has one as well and that's where we saw how well it worked for his dog.
Forgot to mention that you need to test the different levels of correction on yourself first so you know what kind of shock is involved, unless you got a pacemaker. ;D I stopped at level three >:D
Tracy
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Thanks for the info. The new model pet smart is the one I was looking at. It has 105 foot radius and rechargeable batteries. I'm glad to hear they really work and not just some sales pitch.
I absolutely will test on myself. Would never do to him what won't be done to me, although I think I will take the shock in my hand, not the throat.
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You can really test your trust in a person by giving them the remote while you hold the collar. lol.
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We never put in the invisible fencing because around here, a lot of dogs are allowed to run free. The fence doesn't work on neighbor's dogs to keep them out, and we were concerned about some of the larger dogs hurting ours.
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I found low power bb guns to be great anti dog motivators. Just be sure to hide so the other dogs you dont want in your yard dont see you. Otherwise they will know its you shooting them and not the yard biting them, and come around when you not there.
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You can really test your trust in a person by giving them the remote while you hold the collar. lol.
I bet!
The fence I am dealing with has no remote - - it is just always on out to a certain diameter range.
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Be sure to check the dogs coat for thickness as the hair will block the collar from working right. We has a lab/akita mix and she had a thick coat. Also follow the training manual to a T or it will not work. I only trained my dog for a week because she seemed to learn fast but she was just playing me. What she learned was that if she just ran about 5 ft passed the shock zone it would stop shocking her. This was about 10 yrs ago and they maybe better now. Good luck.
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Be sure to check the dogs coat for thickness as the hair will block the collar from working right. We has a lab/akita mix and she had a thick coat. Also follow the training manual to a T or it will not work. I only trained my dog for a week because she seemed to learn fast but she was just playing me. What she learned was that if she just ran about 5 ft passed the shock zone it would stop shocking her. This was about 10 yrs ago and they maybe better now. Good luck.
Yeah I wanted one but I worried about my dogs running past it and not being able to come back in.
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As I understand it, the shock only lasts for 10 seconds, if the dog runs thru it. It does not reset till brought back into the zone, so there is no fear the dog cant come back wo a shock.
I guess some testing is in order.
Russ
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The wireless is the way to go. The systems with the under ground wire only shock momentarily as the dog crosses the wire. The wireless will zap them when they leave the perimeter. Also, if you get one make sure to follow the training instructions. Your dog has to understand what is causing it to be shocked. As with training a dog to do anything they must understand what you want before you correct them for disobeying. Remember, it is a correction not punishment. Hope this helps.
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It's fun with drunk friends, too. ;D I watched some dumb a-- at a party one night dare each other by putting the collar on their neck and trying to run across the barrier. They were drunk! None of them learned by watching their buddies falling to the ground like someone hit them with a Bat in the throat. They all had to try it.Dogs learn quick, especially smart ones, like Labs.
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As I understand it, the shock only lasts for 10 seconds, if the dog runs thru it. It does not reset till brought back into the zone, so there is no fear the dog cant come back wo a shock.
I guess some testing is in order.
Russ
Our situation had this issue and simply called the dog back into the 90' "ring of safety"and no problem. We did this to introduce the boundaries with the flags. Our dogs don't go past certain points with collars on. I used clippers on one dog to make sure the contacts were solid to the skin and full correction is made. Disadvantages to everything, we just minimized them to fit our needs.
Forgot to add that this is a portable system if you go camping or traveling and have access to a power source for the transmitter and a few flags for boundary reminders. Plan on using it this summer for this purpose.
Eddie, your going to have to share this story again in May at the Classic !
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Eddie thats hillarious. I can picture it in my mind. I know a couple younger fellas that when liquored up might be dumb enough to try it.
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We had a friend put on my pups e collar with the promise that we would only hit him at level 3. >:D sucker. It literally straightened him out in the recliner. He didn't even spill his beer.
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You ought to see them when they think they are jumping over a barrier :'(, Great! They straighten out for a second in rigor mortis, then crumple. ;D >:D ;D >:D ;D >:D
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We were playing around with one of those corrective shock collars at the in laws lake cabin last year. They have a mastiff/boxer mix so its a big collar. I tested it out on my arm on low and it didn't do much. I cranked it up on high and held it to my fore head. When they hit the button it felt like my brain was vibrating. Took me a few minutes to clear the cobwebs after that one. No alcohol was involved, just boredom and stupidity.
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You would think my friends would know better. Beer and things that shock you aren't good around us.
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All that said...a really big congratulations on your first dog, Russ.
I'm on #'s 5 & 6. Can't imagine life without 'em. :)