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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Del the cat on September 29, 2014, 10:14:30 am

Title: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Del the cat on September 29, 2014, 10:14:30 am
A guy turned up with a nice English Yew stave he'd cut himself a few years ago asking if I could make him a 100# bow.
I could have put side nocks on, but he preferred them more conventional (but not over elaborate).
He was rather indignant when I said the stave was a tad short ::).
Anyhow I roughed it out using one of the shorter Mary Rose as a rough guide for dimensions. In the end I made it fractionally wider and a whisker thinner for safety as there was a troublesome knot that only just disappeared in time.
The sap wood was a pretty good thickness although it was a bit thick at one and and at the other it was much thicker one edge than the other. Because of that I reduced the sapwood thickness over the last 5 or 6", feathering it in gently. Over the rest of the back the sapwood is untouched (I let the bark pop off on its own).
It's only 73 1/2" ntn 100# at 32" with a nice full bend (only shown at 30" in the pic).
No arrow plate or grip, just a simple mark to show the arrow pass.
Anyway be gentle with me as I've just been told I don't make warbows :'(
Still it's not full of knots on the belly, each with a pinch because they haven't been treated with respect and a ton set.
It also doesn't stack like pig :o.
Del
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: mikaluger (Mick Kay) on September 29, 2014, 10:18:41 am
really nice a usual  Del, lovely. :)
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Badger on September 29, 2014, 10:29:04 am
  I like the tiller shape on that bow, good job Del.
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Knoll on September 29, 2014, 10:36:40 am
100 lb bows with tiller tree attached to that old brick wall.  Miracle ya don't pull the wall over!   ::)
What a gorgeous bend!
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: bubbles on September 29, 2014, 11:28:41 am
Great job Del - looks like a warbow to me! :)
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Heffalump on September 29, 2014, 12:47:37 pm
100 lb bows with tiller tree attached to that old brick wall.  Miracle ya don't pull the wall over!   ::)
What a gorgeous bend!

Yes indeed....Del is known in this part of the world as a gorgeous bender  ;)

Yours aye,

Heff  8)
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on September 29, 2014, 01:09:45 pm
+1 everyone a sweet bow as usual.  Some pretty yew
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: AndiE on September 29, 2014, 01:20:15 pm
Hi

Nice bow and a cool oldschool tillerwall.  :)

Kind regards
                    Andi
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Del the cat on September 29, 2014, 02:22:04 pm
Cheers guys.
I did some back of an envelope arithmetic on the mid limb dimensions compared with the Mary Rose bow I'd used as a reference. I reckon if I'd made it to MR dimensions it would have been 110#
Of course that doesn't mean much as it's only an approximation based on one set of width thickness figures and it's only valid for that bit of wood.
Del
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Cameroo on September 29, 2014, 07:55:15 pm
Nice tiller on that shortie Del
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: mullet on September 29, 2014, 08:42:32 pm
That's a nice, simple looking bow, Del. I imagine the one that said you don't make Warbows is the same guy that's not here anymore? ::)
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: bubbles on September 29, 2014, 08:56:53 pm
Haha,  what an adventure that guy was.
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: missilemaster on September 29, 2014, 09:37:43 pm
Nice bow mate!
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Del the cat on September 30, 2014, 03:46:59 am
That's a nice, simple looking bow, Del. I imagine the one that said you don't make Warbows is the same guy that's not here anymore? ::)
Cheers,
Yup that would be him, and my snide comment at the end of the post is a critique of one of his Italian Yew warbows >:D
Del
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: adb on September 30, 2014, 10:17:59 am
That's a nice, simple looking bow, Del. I imagine the one that said you don't make Warbows is the same guy that's not here anymore? ::)
Cheers,
Yup that would be him, and my snide comment at the end of the post is a critique of one of his Italian Yew warbows >:D
Del

Do you know who that person is?
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Parnell on September 30, 2014, 12:06:39 pm
Looks really nice, Del.  Great work!
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: TheDukesArchers on September 30, 2014, 04:18:52 pm
That is too nice.
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: toomanyknots on October 01, 2014, 07:45:22 pm
Very nice! I missed whoever tried to tell you of all people anything about english longbows/warbows, but I'm sure whatever they said was comical.  :) I once told a guy that I made a couple "warbows" around 120lbs, etc. He said "thats it!?!", and went on to tell me how real warbows would of historically been around 300 or 400 lbs. I tried to explain to him his error, he was way out of his expertise, but the guy took my correction personally and about beat me up over it! ;D So I just let him blab on about whatever fantasy he was living in at the moment. Very nice bow though, I wish people would just bring me yew staves...  :'(
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: wizardgoat on October 02, 2014, 01:41:49 am
That bend is insane del
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Del the cat on October 02, 2014, 03:17:03 am
Cheers guys :)
@ Toomany.... great story, but, yeah you should man up and be pulling at least 300#  ::) LOL
I didn't even try to get that one back to 32", I did shoot a few at 28" but that was plenty for me. It's too easy to be gung ho and damage yourself.
I'm not sure the guy I made it for will really manage it, he's a big strong old bloke, but with virtually no experience! Mind he managed 80# at 32" ok.
Del
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Pappy on October 02, 2014, 10:07:50 am
Very nice Deal,don't usually look at this section but seen you name and had to take a peak,wasn't disappointed.
   Pappy
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Badger on October 03, 2014, 09:20:54 am
  Love the tiller on that bow Del.
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: simson on October 05, 2014, 01:15:02 am
Just found this thread.

What a bow! -- Gorgeous

Beautiful tiller.
I like your setup, esp. the large analog scale. My digi scale is getting too small for my old eyes.
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Japbow on October 05, 2014, 08:34:53 am

      Great Bend!
      Always a pleasure looking at your work.

      Question:
           How many rings did you go down while
           "feathering" the sapwood at the tips?

      Japbow.
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Del the cat on October 05, 2014, 09:06:53 am

      Great Bend!
      Always a pleasure looking at your work.

      Question:
           How many rings did you go down while
           "feathering" the sapwood at the tips?

      Japbow.
I don't really know, must have been 5 or 6, I reduced the sapwood thickness by about half at one tip. On the other it was just a few rings on one edge, where it was at an angle.
Del
Title: Re: Dels Latest 100#
Post by: Yeomanbowman on October 07, 2014, 03:01:50 pm
Welsh and English yew won't make warbows either >:D

Very nice bow!