Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: sieddy on September 23, 2014, 05:21:48 am
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Hi fellas my 63" Hazel D bow appears to be holding up. Any input on the tiller would be greatly appreciated. The braced pic is about 5" and the draw is 17". Thanks Si
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Looking good, but right limb looks stiffer?
But from how it sits on the tiller I'm guessing that's the lower limb, so maybe that fine :)
Maybe mid limbs could do a tad more? The middle and tips seem to be working
It's worth while getting a tiller set up somewhere nice and square if possible, I realize we don't all have the luxury of big workshops tho' :'(
Del
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Thanks Del- its still pulling above my drawweight so i'll keep going and keep my fingers crossed! It makes me nervous pulling it further back now! :-0
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Looking pretty good to me,I would just kep doing what you are doing and work it out to draw length and weight. :)
Pappy
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With that raised area at your handle section it looks like your bending it backwards ??? ??? ??? Did u glue something to the back of it???
So what and why is that??? ....and which side are you removing wood from??? ??? Sorry but I have to ask cus it don't look right
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With that raised area at your handle section it looks like your bending it backwards ??? ??? ??? Did u glue something to the back of it???
So what and why is that??? ....and which side are you removing wood from??? ??? Sorry but I have to ask cus it don't look right
Looks like bark on the back and a flat belly to me, which is a good design for Hazel...
Del
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H :)ey Blackhawk and Del
This stick is indeed au natural i took the bark off but there is a layer of wrinkly cambium stuff on the back which i think is pretty cool. I've left the handle area a little thicker as i read that a d bow should be slightly stiffer at the grip. Thanks again
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Looking good to me. Just a little stiff on the right limb. Did you narrow the handle area?
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Hi Matt
The handle is an inch wide and from the fades the limbs are just under 2". I've been learning from you guys! :)
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I got my stick back to 23" now. Its looking good to me but was starting to follow the string so ive heat treated it. i'll give it a c :)ouple of days to rehydrate and then get back at it.
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Sorry for the wonky photo! ::)
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Looking good. I wouldn't worry too much about a bit of set. How wide are the limbs, I reckon you need a good 2" to avoid set unless you heat treat.
Del
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I agree with del. looking good. Have you decided what limb is going to be the top and bottom? The right limb would make a good candidate for the bottom. Just a tad stiff in the mid but nothing too bad. Great job. How far of a draw are you shooting for. Also what weight are you shooing for
:)
Matt.
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Cheers fellas its just under 2" wide (i wouldve gone wider but messed up the layout!) ::)
I don't mind a little set but hope i can nip it in the bud now. I had thought the left limb would be bottom but its feeling a bit better the other way round so i might well go with the right. I'm going with the flow with draw length and weight if i can get it between 35-40# @ 26" i'll be chuffed. I'm lovin the adventure anyway! :D
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Well you're almost there then :). Keep up the good work. what weight are you at now?
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My scales aint great and they say 38# @ 23" but it feels a bit heavier than that. :)
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We'll that's a good thing. I would pull it to 40 and see where you are. You'll probably lose a little weight in the shooting in. But you are close close close. Just go slow. :) you should post another pic of the unbraced profile. Id like to see where the set is.
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Try the CD test on that last pic... to my mind it confirms what I thought. Right limb just a tad stiff just right of centre.
Del
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Thanks guys much appreciated! :)
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That cd test is one of the things that has helped me the most to develop an eye for tillering. I still need the cd but I can pic it up easier and easier. Del is spot on. :)
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I use a quarter on my phone.
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I use a quarter on my phone.
Your phone has a pay slot???!!! :o ;)
Del
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I do most things on my phone as well. Now where do i get a quarter from in Oxford uk- will the post office have them? ;)
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I gave it a couple of days to rehydrate then took a little bit off midlimb both sides. I got it back to 28" but its underweight currently pulling 30# @ 28". But to be fair its my 2nd sucessful bow and it shoots pretty nicely! :)
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Sorry the pics are wonky again! :o
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Sleddy,
The right limb looks a bit stiff.
c.d.
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Well that turned out great for your second bow. Are you gonna dress it up?
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Thanks Cd thats really helpful- good tip.
Thanks Matt- i do indeed have plans to beautify it! :)
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I would see how it reals in the hand with the right limb as the bottom. Shoot it a bit. If it reals good with the tiller leave it. If it's a little uncomfortable adjust the right limb a tad. :)
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C.d any ideas how to get that right limb bending better without removing too much wood?
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Thanks Matt i might just do that- i'm loathe to lose any more weight! :)
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Hey man try taking a few man scrapes in the middle of the right limb I think it would only take five or ten scrapes at that weight. You're almost there. That right fade looks a smidgen stiff too. Only a bit..
That's what my eyes are seeing anyone else is more than welcome if the see differently :)
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It's a wise man who knows when to quit.
You don't want to end up with it IBR (improved beyond repair.... >:D )
Get 100 arrows through it and then maybe tinker with it...
Dunno if a bow is ever finished ;D
I've had a bow 40 years old and still fiddled about with it.
Del
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I'm happy with it how it is now. I'll smarten it up and post pics when iget the handle and finish on it. Thanks again for the input- a little goes a long way! :)
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You have a very good eye for tiller!
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Cheers Badger- you are a gent! :)
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Very nicely done! Jawge
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Thanks George. I that means a lot coming from you- as i really dig your website! :)
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ive ran into a problem and cut an inch n a half off each end. To make matters worse i steamed the limbs in an attempt to flip the tips. Now the tiller is shot and the right limb has taken set badly. id really value some more input
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sorry again for the photos- dunno why that keeps happening?
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I'd probably leave it and call the left limb the bottom limb.
Jawge
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It's ok.
It's only taken a little set and that's on the inner limbs because that's where all the work is being done. The outer half of each limb isn't flexing much.
You could clamp it up straight and heat treat the belly on the inner third of each limb, that would help recover it... but hey it's fine... that's not a lot of set.
Del
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thanks Jawge and Del- yet again, greatly appreciated! :)