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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: TRACY on July 13, 2014, 08:10:10 pm

Title: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: TRACY on July 13, 2014, 08:10:10 pm
My wife and I were hiking a trail today in so. IN and I noticed these fruits all over the ground near the top of a ridge. I thought someone dropped their snacks on the trail but further investigation revealed the source and type of fruit. They are blue/purple and marble sized with a sweet fleshy inside. I had never seen this before. Anyone else know what they are? 8)

Tracy
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 13, 2014, 09:14:41 pm
Looks like a blueberry, one of the wild varieties grows on bushes in the woods around here and are called Gooseberries.

I picked about 7 qts of blueberries off my bushes yesterday and today.
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: Crogacht on July 13, 2014, 09:50:08 pm
Look like blueberries to me, but slightly less round than the ones I buy here.
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: Danzn Bar on July 13, 2014, 10:16:30 pm
That's a good one TRACY.......................
DBar
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: TRACY on July 14, 2014, 08:59:56 am
Yes,  I thought they looked like blueberries also, but they are not.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 14, 2014, 09:22:24 am
Hackberries? SI is covered in hackberry trees isn't it?
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: RidgeRunner on July 14, 2014, 09:41:35 am
They look like Persimmons to me.
Persimmons will often drop (immature) in large numbers.
After they stay on the ground a few days they will turn dark blue like that.

Mash some open and see if there are seeds in them.

David

Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 14, 2014, 09:53:02 am
Hackberries drop little round fruit about the size of a BB, zillions of them.
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: Pappy on July 14, 2014, 10:49:45 am
I thought Persimmons also, they look like that when they fall early,but they ant sweet to the tast when that happens to them.  :) To large for Hackberry,at least the ones we have.
 Pappy
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: TRACY on July 14, 2014, 11:11:36 am
They look like Persimmons to me.
Persimmons will often drop (immature) in large numbers.
After they stay on the ground a few days they will turn dark blue like that.

Mash some open and see if there are seeds in them.

David

David and Pappy are correct! I've never seen this happen or should say never taken notice. I was sure they were blueberries until I mashed a few and saw the larger seeds. Kept looking and found a few that were green/blue with the familiar stem and leaf collar attached. There were about 7 softball sized persimmon trees and saw some of the green/blueberry fruits still attached. Is this a sign of stress like drought or insect damage with persimmon? Learning something new

I agree they look like hackberry fruits as well PD.


Tracy
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: koan on July 14, 2014, 01:12:45 pm
Look like what we call Elderberry... Brian
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: Gsulfridge on July 14, 2014, 05:24:27 pm
Chew one up and try to whistle.  >:D
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: TRACY on July 14, 2014, 07:36:16 pm
Chew one up and try to whistle.  >:D

I don't think so Mr. Sulfridge! ;D I haven't forgotten the taste of my first ripe one as a kid.

Seriously though they had a very sweet fermented smell to them. Just like mushrooms I'm not familiar with, let the other guy try first.


Tracy
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: okie64 on July 14, 2014, 11:31:19 pm
 I have a couple of big persimmon trees behind my shop and they usually have some fruit falling off this time of year, not sure why though. Persimmons are kinda weird I guess, some of them fall in mid summer and some will still be hanging on the tree in January. One of my favorite late season deer stands is next to a couple big persimmon trees that are still dropping their fruit in January.
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: PatM on July 15, 2014, 12:45:11 am
Looks like highbush blueberry to me.
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Post by: lostarrow on July 15, 2014, 12:47:05 am
could be service berry. Big  , juicy ,  a few bigger seeds in each.
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: lostarrow on July 15, 2014, 12:49:17 am
They aren't ready up in Northern Ontario yet , but will be soon. Every thing is about 5 weeks behind up there compared to where you are.Supposed to make a good bow, too.I have a couple staves that should be ready . Now if I can just get some of those other projects out of the way ::)
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: koan on July 15, 2014, 08:34:03 am
Lostarrow, I saw one of those Sunday and dint know what it was.. Thanks! .. Brian
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: TRACY on July 15, 2014, 09:20:21 am
They are persimmons that drop early. Size wise they are like large blueberries. The inside has a sweet fermented odor and big seeds. I'm just not 100% sure why they drop early. Lack of water? Insect damage? Seed dispersal?

Tracy
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: Pappy on July 15, 2014, 09:28:06 am
Tracy some always do that around here,wind or worse when it is really dry,usually always plenty left on the tree to mature but see them do that almost every year so i wouldn't think you have anything to worry about. I love hunting them,especially the ones that fall in the early fall. :) almost as good as White Oak. The ones that hang on untill late winter don't seem to attract much except Coons/killed my first Coyote with a bow eating them in late winter also. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: koan on July 15, 2014, 11:36:54 am
Ive never seen my persimmons do that.. I dont even have fruit showin yet. Im inda middle of Mo..
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: TRACY on July 15, 2014, 12:21:28 pm
Good to know Pappy. I've never noticed it before and thought it was odd. I wonder if the deer will be attracted to these early drops? I do hunt around them in October because the deer are there. Thanks for the info all!

Tracy
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: PatM on July 17, 2014, 09:09:26 pm
Isn't American persimmon a much larger fruit?
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: TRACY on July 17, 2014, 11:37:49 pm
Isn't American persimmon a much larger fruit?

It is and that was the odd factor with these fruits is that they were large blueberry size or 1/2 size of normal fruit that is orange in color instead of the bluish color in the pic.
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: okie64 on July 18, 2014, 10:45:26 pm
I went and checked under my trees and found quite a few early droppings too. You can rule out drought as a cause since its been one of the wettest summers we've had around here in awhile.

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Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: TRACY on July 18, 2014, 11:13:36 pm
Exactly what I found okie64! I would be interested in why this happens.

Tracy
Title: Re: What type of fruit is this?
Post by: EagleTexas on July 20, 2014, 11:12:31 pm
Looks like Huckleberry to me. It's a close cousin of Gooseberry only the berries are blue not red.
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Post by: paoliguy on July 21, 2014, 01:01:44 pm
I noticed the persimmons at a shoot in southern Indiana this weekend were doing the exact same thing. I've been around persimmons in these parts for a lot of years and I don't recall seeing this. Maybe I've just not noticed?