Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: half eye on June 12, 2014, 08:01:02 pm
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Thought I'd see what I could do with some scraps from other bow projects. Hree's the specs:
1: Pig Nut Hickory (from H.Rhodes) 33" ntn, weighs 55# @ 17" draw. pin knocks
2. Ironwood, 40 3/8" ntn, weighs 48# @ 21" draw. Eastern woodland knocks
The hickory stave is nearly pristine, with a small knot discoloration on the belly, the Ironwood is a sliver from a stave bow made for J-Dub has seven knots, prop-twist, and a zillion (?) wind-checks or age cracks which ever ya prefer.
Any questions or comments welcome, see what ya think. 2 sets of pics
rich
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rest of the pics....obviously the bows need to be tricked out but wanted ya to see that they aren't backed, wrapped and no cheatin goin on 8)
rich
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Nice work Rich they look great.
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Congrats, you won the backpack bow challenge!
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Very cool!
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Nice bows! I like the little ones. When you're making a bow like that how do you decide on the draw length? Do you just pull it til you start to pucker? Why not 18"?
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heck yeah Rich, you really got them two sticks bending, can't wait to see them tricked out, bub
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SWEET! Love those shorties Rich. Nice work as always.
Tattoo Dave
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Thanks fellas, Don.....make 'em just like any other bow. By that I mean I tiller them to make weight at 1/2 their length. After that's done I can add about an inch by either allowing a little more handle bend (reduce weight) or by bringing the tips back (little weight change but more draw).
The main factor has to also include "string angle". The shorter they are the faster you approach exceeding a critical angle. If you look at the full draw's you can see there isn't much of anything left in the 33" pignut.....but the angles of the 40 incher show you could maybe chase another 1/2 to full inch of draw. But there is not much sense in going beyond 1/2 bow length. Hope that answers your question.
rich
thanks Dave
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Those are your take anywhere bows, you could just throw that 33"er in your duffle bags with the hunting clothes.
Cool bows Rich and respectable draw weights for super shorties.
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You don't let any scraps go to waste. cool little bows.
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The pignut freaking crazy! Awesome bows. :)
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Thanks fellas, Don.....make 'em just like any other bow. By that I mean I tiller them to make weight at 1/2 their length.
Ya know, I think I knew that. Getting old sucks big time. I knew that double the draw length would be the approximate bow length but I never thought of it from the other end. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Nice Rich! I knew it was you before I looked at your name at the bottom. You and your awesome little ironwood bows :D
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It's awesome how much power you can get out of those little short bows!
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They're both super cool, but that little hickory is just flat out awesome! Josh
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I love short bows, thanks for posting these
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That is amazing Rich! You got all the bend out of that little scrap of hickory. You are the undisputed short bow champ. :)
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Man nicely done Rich. I always love to see your posts. That little one is crazy
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+2 on what Howard said...Those bends are amazing Rich...Have you shot any arrows outa them yet?
Don
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Thank you all very much.
Don ,yes I have shot them and they are quite snappy, I'm not very good with the 33" right now but I'm sneekin up on it.
Howard, that pignut ya give me is some of the toughest bow wood I ever had.
Thanks Josh, and all of you for the comments, appreciate it.
rich
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Rich, my man...you are the master of shorties, for sure. 2 awesome bows, sir. You definitely got the most out of that wood. :o
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Great stuff Rich :)
A while back at a have a go day I shot my whistling arrows (made from Pecan shells) from a real short little Osage bow. One of the guys who shoots modern target recurves couldn't believe the power in it. All the kids loved those screaming arrows too :laugh:
I was trying to show 'em you didn't meed f/glass and all the modern junk (I think I made the point >:D )
Del
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theres another two for the "backpack challenge" anyone even remember that? i really like short bows, very cool
chuck
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theres another two for the "backpack challenge" anyone even remember that? i really like short bows, very cool
chuck
We just revived that thread a few days ago. I think the rules settled on were 40" or less with a draw weight of 45 lbs at at least half the bow length.
I'll bump the thread or add this thread to it.
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Cool stuff is always rich!
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You beat me to it Rich. I am about done with mine. Those are fine examples of SHORT bows. You for sure know how it's done man!
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Well when half eye calls them "REAL short.." he ain't kiddin' around. ;D Those are some seriously cool little bows. Fine job as always.
(I swear, that fella could tiller out a bow from a chopstick..) ;)
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Thank you fellas.
Ken, thank you sir
Dell, I done told ya, see how corrupted ya got mingling with the natives over here
Lost, thanks man
Paul, these are fun to play around with, but would not be my first choice if I was starvin.
Jon, I was not even in no "challenge" so your good bud. Besides I seen a few of them rocket-launchers you made and these aint even in it.
Thanks to all for the comments.
rich
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What at the dimensions on that hickory? I alwayse thought hickory had to be wide, but that looks fairly narrow. Also does it have much handshock?
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cman, here's the dimensions:
Front profile.....1-1/8" wide for the center 6", then reasonably straight tapers to 3/4" tips
Side profile......9/16" thick center 8", with a mild and even taper to 3/8" thick tips. @ about mid-limb the thickness is about 1/2".
Keep in mind that with staves the measurements were not laid out that way, they are after the tiller process so they are not even throughout as if sawed.
I have not noticed any significant hand shock but realize that when ya turn a shorty loose it happens real quick and violent, not at all like a long bow with it's smooth long draw and release. It is not better or worse just a whole lot different, is all.
rich
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Nice work as usual Half Eye, those look like little rockets for sure
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Wow Rich! That Pignut is very impressive? Both are remarkable.
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Thanks. I hope to try one of those someday.