Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: BOWMAN53 on April 10, 2014, 01:07:53 pm
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ive never heard anyone say "oh man that ratio is horrible". so, does anyone have a picture of what a bad ratio looks like. not just a diagram, an actual picture.
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I can post one when I get home from work tonight. I have some pieces that have the most beautiful snakey grain pattern but are nothing but early wood. I've been using them as weight in my truck on snowy days this winter.
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Ive never found it to mean squat Jordo. I look for checks and cracks, that's about it.
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I think ideally you want about 2:1 ratio or better but I build bows with whatever osage I have, good ring ratio or bad. The bow might be a bit thicker if too much early wood.
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im just curious, ive never seen an example of a bad ratio. i remember you saying that clint, it was the curly osage right?
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If it was all I had to work with then I would use these but will avoid the top rings on this one because I prefer the middle section.
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thanks fred, those top rings do look really bad.
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If I can chase it I use it. I have broken a few bows in my time but never had an Osage bow fail on me due to ring ratio, thickness or anything else you hear other people talk about. After all, the world was flat at one time right?
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You're right, it was the curly stuff. It is all early wood. I don't see how it would work for making a bow. I'll post a picture of it this evening. I brought some pieces of it to the Moontree gathering and gave away. Maybe they can post a picture of some of it.
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I have some BL staves I could show you of what might be considered bad. I used them o practice my chasing. They have failed but it was do to me asking too much or going to narrow. At least that is what I'm telling myself ::)
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Here's those pics. This is the same stave, from end to end
(http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y539/IdahoMatt1/image_zpsd6bc8d55.jpg) (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/IdahoMatt1/media/image_zpsd6bc8d55.jpg.html)
(http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y539/IdahoMatt1/image_zps16337f94.jpg) (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/IdahoMatt1/media/image_zps16337f94.jpg.html)
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wow that second pic is really bad
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Yes it is. I am putting some walnut in the handle section right now. Trying to salvage from frets, went too narrow for a bendy. We will see
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This work for ya Clint?
(http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l491/dnl17694/5E4DC280-77C1-4ECF-B4AF-6827E1904ED3_zps64j25sd0.jpg) (http://s1120.photobucket.com/user/dnl17694/media/5E4DC280-77C1-4ECF-B4AF-6827E1904ED3_zps64j25sd0.jpg.html)
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That's some wild looking stuff you got there Daniel.................Sinew back it, and you'll have a great bow. I will have finished pic's of the sinew backed static recurve I had at Moon Tree.... "Attitude" ....after this weekend. It had very bad/thin rings. I'm happy with it, but I may not know the difference between good and bad. :-\ ;)
DBar
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That was one of the better pieces Daniel. Here is another piece. Nothing but early wood for an inch down or more. The few good looking rings aren't near as thick as they look in the picture.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/Bows%202014/SDC16424.jpg)
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I'd like to see someone build a bow from wood such as this.......
Sinew back it and I think you'd have a great shooter... ???
DBar
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Damn that's crazy Clint!
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Clint, last year I had about 15 staves with rings like that, I could chase them with a scraper in about 15 min they were so thin. The bows all came out great. Not my fastest but very acceptable.
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Thin rings don't bother me,I like them just fine,but if the early wood is as thick then I won't use it,it's nothing but crust. :) the thinner the early ring the better I like it. JohnW you mean the world ant flat. ??? :-\ ;) :) Just to be clear,about any wood will make a bow and if you have no choice go for it ,but if you can pick then why not use better stuff. :)
Pappy
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I'm with pappy on this one ... ;)
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I'd like to see someone build a bow from wood such as this.......
Sinew back it and I think you'd have a great shooter... ???
DBar
Have your stubby rider bring me a straight stave to Marshall, Ill give it a run!
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I'll take all that off your hands, i love a challenge O:)
chuck
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If I can chase it I use it. I have broken a few bows in my time but never had an Osage bow fail on me due to ring ratio, thickness or anything else you hear other people talk about. After all, the world was flat at one time right?
ofcourse the worlds not flat, theres mountains, DUHHH!!!!