Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Zuma on April 10, 2014, 11:08:30 am
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I will actually use this spear on large carp this spring.
I think it would work on lions but I can't get 15 other members to
join me on a hunt. What's with that???
Zuma
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8) nice spear
I was reading in a George Herter book the other day about the English ambassador to Namibia, I think, back in the '60 who would hunt lions with a spear in only a jock strap and sandals. :o He said the guy would just stand there and let the lion run at him and the lion would impale himself on the spear. again :o :o Now that takes a stout fellow there. And that's my George Herter story for the day.
;) dp
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I'll bet his jock strap was extra large! ::)
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He probably had to wear a jock strap so he didn't soil the back of his pants. ;D ;D ;D
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Pretty cool man, good luck with the carp!
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I bet the jock strap was a bit wet afterward. ;) :o Does the Depends company make a jock strap? Nice spear Zuma. It should get a big ol carp in the boat, or on shore. ;)
Wayne
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Thanks guys!
Neat story bow. Great responses Pat and stick. lol
I have seen film of Masi warriors killing a full grown male lion.
There was also a article back in the Day about a guy in Central America
who put a cross bar on his spear and killed jaguars when they leaped at him.
I want a gang of guys with me. I don't want to die alone.
Zuma
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Back in the day of the great elephant hunters, the story goes where the ivory hunter and his gun bearers were stalking a particularly large bull thru heavy cover when they come upon the elephant dead....and a very small Pygmy hunter sitting on his head.
Thru the interpreter, he asked how the small hunter was able to kill such a large elephant. The diminutive hunter answered, "My club". Well, to say the least this great white hunter with his large bore double barrel express rifle was dumbfounded. He spluttered out, "Great googley-woogley, how large is your club?"
The Pygmy quietly thought for a moment and said, "I think there about 40 members now."
Post pics of your carp or a lion, Zuma!
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Nice spear.
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Nice spear.....and JW....Still chuckling..
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bet he wore the jockstrap backwards...you know...to catch the mess.
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Nice Spear! I don't know if I would trust cane/bamboo to the weight of a charging lion, but I think it would be great for most game. Nice workmanship.
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Thank you all for your comments. Members here really do Rock. lol
Besides cork guns and sling shots my understanding of ballistics
was minimal as a kid.
My dad and grandad would drink whiskey and reload cartridges
they had shot.
I was impressed that they measured the shot and power with a scale
and used molds for rifle bullets they melted on the stove, trimming
them to a tee. Muzzle velocity, psi , trajectory, clad, ball and hollow
point were words and meanings I learned. For some reason I gravitated
to the bow as a youth.
I guess just because it was something I could afford.
I read and joined clubs to feed my addiction. I had not yet understood the totality of physics. Which is simply put, UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT and Hot Cold.
When I thought I understood, I tried to follow the trail of ballistics backwards.
How exciting! How respectful I became when considering the plight of my ancestors. Not just mine but you-alls as well.
Reverence is the only word.
Zuma
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I believe it would do the job.
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I am really not unhappy with the choice of bamboo for the shaft.
First thing I like is that it is light weight allowing better control.
I plugged the section where the point is hafted with a solid wood dowel.
The base of the point is buttressed against it.
The stem is concave like a Perkiomen. I tapered the shaft to fit it.
The sinew actually squeezes tight the bamboo and captures the stem from the shoulders to the expanding base. Testing the bamboo with heavy powerful carp
will not be the same as a big cat but it's a start. Perhaps a large wild boar
would be a better test of the shaft's durability.
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Years ago there was an article in Outdoor Life mag. about a guy who killed I believe 32 big cats with a metal spear and dogs to bay up lion and then provoke attack. I remember he had a big T on his spears so they would not slide down and get him. Big leapers were easier than low chargers, put the butt on ground and let them impale them selfs on high leapers. Had a non American name, must had a real set though :o ;D ;D Bob
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Years ago there was an article in Outdoor Life mag. about a guy who killed I believe 32 big cats with a metal spear and dogs to bay up lion and then provoke attack. I remember he had a big T on his spears so they would not slide down and get him. Big leapers were easier than low chargers, put the butt on ground and let them impale them selfs on high leapers. Had a non American name, must had a real set though :o ;D ;D Bob
Chrome plated set!
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One major aspect of early man (woman) was protecting the family or tribe from the creatures that hunted them. And there were many that out weighed and had much bigger teeth and claws. Not usually to tasty except the bears.
No matter, man conquered them all before copper, iron or gun powder.
Today we spend billions reintroducing the survivor's of these creatures in our backyards.??
Our upper crust even gives them special protective consideration but simultaneously want to strip us of our rights to bear arms??? LOL
Zuma
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These photo are pretty self explanitory but I'll give a quick run down.
Lots of rain. The river came up into the field during the night and the carp were already in it. I took some wild shots and fractured the tip, then resharpened for today's try. The water was already receeding yesterday afternoon so todays luck was better. Somewhat. lol
Zuma
Oh yeah that is the broken bamboo. Snapped when lifting the carp and all the grass out of the ditch. Dern near lost em. Oh yeah it's two different carp. The bigger one was in the ditch.
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HAHA nice dude!
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Probably this guy. Not lions but rather Jaguar. He claims more than 30 though.
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasha_Siemel
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Thanks for the link Pat for the laugh Tim.
I rember reading about him in an Argosy mag when I was a kid.
I didn't realize that he lived and had the museum very close to where I grew up.
Next time I will try a shoulderless (rhyolite) point as the shoulders would not hold one of those carp on. Their ribs and bones are to far apart at that size. The barbs just get hung up on debris. The long shaft is a plus though.
Zuma
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So is it carp sushi for din din ? You can have mine . The family carp recipe involves a oak board and a pile of horse crap. But I've ate worse I'm sure.
Bone
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LOL Yeah, throw the fish away and eat the board.
But my carp flavored corn, beans and squash will be real tasty the end of summer.
Well that is if the birds don't get the second planting too.
Zuma
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Zuma, I can see it now...... :o ::) :-[
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Well next time I won't take you along fly fishing.
You promised not to expose me in my loin cloth. >:D
Zuma