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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 06:30:45 pm

Title: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 06:30:45 pm
I found this bow to be a real challenge for me.  The tiller looks sort of wonky, but the bow shoots great.  It had a natural whoopty-do and snake at the fade in the upper limb, so I made the arrow pass at that spot.  It is an inch wide at the fades and tapers to a little less that 3/8" where the mahogany tips begin.  The lower limb had another rollercoaster in it which gave the bow some deflex from the middle of the handle out to mid limb.  I dry heated some reflex in the outer limbs with the heat gun, and I know it may look odd,but  I believe the limbs are working pretty good.  The top limb is an inch shorter than the snaky wonky bottom limb, but it resulted in a straight shooting, sweet on release, almost center shot 45lbs @ 26" bow.  It is sixty inches nock to nock.   I had a severe wind check that got into a big knot and I was worried enough about to wrap with some green B-50 and super glue.  I put a similar wrap on the other limb just for a little cosmetic balance.  This bow came from a dead osage tree that had been laying in the pasture about 20 years.  I don't know what made me think there was a bow in there, but I am glad I stayed with this one.  It is one of the most accurate bows that I have made so far.   
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 06:33:42 pm
and a few more pics....
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 06:34:24 pm
and another..
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 06:37:34 pm
and still more....  :D
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 06:46:10 pm
one more unbraced.
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: osage outlaw on April 06, 2014, 06:52:34 pm
I bet that was a nightmare to tiller.  Great job taming that beast.
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 06:59:14 pm
It was the toughest one I have tackled yet.  Those roller coaster back to belly dips give me fits.   I had to just look at it through blurry eyes and make sure the tips were bending to the same spot on the wall without a focus on those hingy looking whoopty dos..does that make any sense at all?  :D  Thanks OO.
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: rps3 on April 06, 2014, 07:51:31 pm
That is one wacky but cool looking looking bow,  if it shoots great and holds it shape what more can you ask for. Way to go on a tough one.
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: Bogaman on April 06, 2014, 08:15:28 pm
I love the character bows. They can be hard to tiller. Looks like you did a good job on that one.
I think I'd call that one Lazarus;^)>
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: Badly Bent on April 06, 2014, 08:21:07 pm
 Somewhere during the time spent working this bow you had to ask yourself what kind of a sane person would attempt a bow from a stave like this. ;)  Looks like you pulled it off nicely Howard. At first glance of the full draw
it don't look right, then when you see the braced and unbraced profiles it all makes sense. Well done.
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: half eye on April 06, 2014, 08:31:32 pm
what a bow....ya got to love them short deer bows. As for the "minor" tillering issues, ya know ya like the abuse,eh? or else ya would not have the career you do 8)
rich
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 08:54:37 pm
Thanks rps3, Steve, Greg, and Rich.  It is some form of self-abuse to just see what you can make a bow out of...  Osage is an evil temptress.
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: burchett.donald on April 06, 2014, 10:03:10 pm
Howard,
            That is what I call character!!! I kept going back an forth looking at the unstrung profile against full draw and you do have everything moving nicely. Nice job on whipping that piece of wood into a bending accurate killer, PA all day bud... 8)
                                                                      Don
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: Ken S on April 06, 2014, 10:12:52 pm
Nice job on that one!
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 10:14:43 pm
Thanks so much Don.  The handle and arrow pass disguise what is really going on with that upper limb.  The real mid point of the bow is low of center in the handle, which makes it look goofy, but it just worked out that way.  The deflex right out of the handle was more pronounced than the photos depict which makes the upper limb appear to be bending much more than it really is.  The placement of the snakey little dip made the bow almost center shot and very accurate.

Thanks Ken S!
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: SLIMBOB on April 06, 2014, 10:26:49 pm
Wow!  Bet that thing was a nightmare to tiller.  Very nice job Sir!
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 10:29:34 pm
Thanks Slimbob!  This is the one I told you about that I thought might have been out of my skill set.  Those whoopty-dos challenge my eye.  I learned a lot on this one. 
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Post by: SLIMBOB on April 06, 2014, 10:32:45 pm
Yep.  Realized that as soon as I saw the pics.  Looks like you pulled it off nicely.
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 10:34:52 pm
Thanks - it means a lot coming from you guys.  The only other feedback I have had so far is from the wife who looks sort of confused and asked, "Couldn't you find a straighter piece of wood to work with?"
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: Badger on April 06, 2014, 10:37:21 pm
      You did a good job on it. Those bows give me fits!
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 06, 2014, 10:57:41 pm
Thanks so much Badger.  I broke a couple of bows with those rollercoaster type dips before trying this one.  This time it sort of unlocked in my thick head, finally.  I made the thickness the same below and above the dip and then quit fooling with it.   Then when I tillered,  I looked at the whole bow and how it was bending.  Once the limbs were bending evenly, then I figured that's about as good as I could do.  There's my simple formula for dealing with whoopty-dos.  I know there are some expert character bow guys who are looking at this and if you have any advice or criticism that I can learn from, lay it on me, as I am sure there will be more snakes and dips in my future.   Getting this one to hold together and shoot well has been more satisfying to me than any other bow that I have built to date. 
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on April 07, 2014, 01:35:27 am
Very nice work, that's an accomplishment!  I love the snake and curves.
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: Pappy on April 07, 2014, 07:07:49 am
Now that is one wicked looking stick,very good for what you had to work with. :)
 Pappy
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Post by: simson on April 07, 2014, 09:19:43 am
You did a great job Howard, I know how hard it is to tiller that wicked staves
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Post by: blackhawk on April 07, 2014, 10:00:09 am
Looked like a good teaching stick there  ;)
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Post by: Jesse on April 07, 2014, 11:38:17 am
looks excellent!
Title: Re: osage reflex/deflex character
Post by: H Rhodes on April 07, 2014, 05:07:44 pm
Thanks Peacebow-Coos, Pappy, Simon, blackhawk, and Jesse.   I am fired up on these crooked osage staves now! :D  Thanks guys, it means a lot.