Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: criveraville on March 22, 2014, 01:59:43 am
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Today I found 22 ammo. $14.99 for 50 rat shot
$5 for 50. Both federal. I wanted the bullets, but was perturbed at the price of 10 cents per shell. Diego was with me and he really wanted me to get some. We left even though it was the first time I had even been able to buy 22 ammo in months.
I realized that I should get some so we went back twenty minutes later and bought the maximum of 3 boxes. $16.21 for 150 .22 caliber shells. Ticked me off >:(
Anyone else even able to buy it?
Cipriano
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We can get it here but it's like $25-30 per box of 450 which is pretty cheap compared to most places, but you can't hardly find 22-250, 243 and 223, I hunt coyotes with a 22-250 so I go through a lot of ammo and I had to order a bunch from cable's because the local sporting goods store didn't have any and said it would be at least 3 weeks before they got more.
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It's 7$ a box for 50 here and I refuse to pay that and you can only buy one box per household per day. I hate it and am boycotting. My brother lives in Vermont, I have him send me big boxes for waaaaaay cheaper. This drives me crazy but I'm not paying that much with those kinds of restrictions.
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It's called capitalism. The law of supply and demand. As long as people will pay the price the price will remain the same and with the windfall the ammo manufacturers have made over the last year or so they can afford to just sit on their hands and wait for someone to buy at any price.
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With one exception, you're absolutely correct Pat! But it's not the manufacturers that are gouging the price. Its unscrupulous businesses further down the supply line. I have found a few places that are honest and still sell it at a reasonable price although limited quantity. As long people are stupid enough to pay the outrageous prices, this is gonna keep dragging on. If someone is idiotic enough to pay $75 + a brick for as much as they can buy, then they are the problem. I'm sick of hearing people bragging about buying 10 or 20 bricks from so and so and then complaining about how much it costs. Sorry, touchy subject with me. My kids burn through a lot of .22 lr, but I'll not pay these exorbitant prices. I'll have the kids shooting their air rifles first. Josh
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I've got a 22 mag. Last year I flat couldn't buy ammo for it at any price. Bass Pro Shop, Cabella's, Academy, nor any of the local gun stores had any for months. When they did get some in it was gone within minutes, people standing in long lines for it. Better now, but it's $20.00 for a box of 50.
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I don't understand folks bragging about all the guns they have, the variety of guns they have and how much and what kind of ammo they have stockpiled. Seems to me that is asking for scrutiny by the powers that be. Once it goes on the internet it stays on the internet forever.
It is ashamed that .22s are so expensive. We shot lots on .22s and 410 shotguns over the years. It is an inexpensive and useful way to teach proper use of guns and gun safety. I wasn't allowed to own a gun when I grew up. My Dad was a police court judge and just didn't want guns in his house. I was fortunate to have a neighbor that did have guns and he taught me and my siblings the safe and proper way to use and handle guns, and with my Dad's blessing. In high school(military high school) I was issued a M-1 Garand, was on the firing squad and the rifle team. These days I get more pleasure out of shooting bows than I do shooting guns.
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Still a shortage here but it is available if you want to stand in line. Gander Mountain get it's supply of 22 stuff on Wednesday mornings. When they open on Wednesdays at 9 there will be a line of about 30 people waiting for bullets. The manager gives everyone a number, tells you what the box limit per person is and lets you go one at a time to the 22 bullet isle. Sounds like a hassle but is actually fun as there are like minded folk in line and hunting and gun stories abound while you are waiting your turn. The shelves will be empty in an hour or so.
I have stood in the que twice, 4K limit on rounds the first time, about a 1000 rounds the last time, it all depends on what they get in. Early on they were letting people buy 10, 1300 round tubs which the buyers promptly flipped to Gun Broker. Now they limit the individual purchase to make the daily stock last longer and be available to more people.
Prices aren't out of line, I paid $12 a box for 50 rounds of 22WMR last time out. I picked up 5 boxes for my Ruger Single Six with plans on assaulting the local armadillo population with the gun. I have killed 24 with my 22 rifle and am going to switch to the pistol to make things more challenging.
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The new Field and Stream store by me is always stocked full of ammo. No waiting and no lines. They sent me and the wife each a $10 coupon in the mail last week. I used mine on a box of 9mm. I walked out with 50 rounds for $8
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I have not tried to buy any for a while now. Last brick I bought and have been stretching out was 35$.
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My wife works at ATK in Lewiston Idaho.They own CCI and Federal. They are cranking out .22 shells by the millions daily. They are not charging anymore than they ever have. it's definitely being manipulated farther down the supply line.Dealers and distributors are having their way. Because my wife works there,she buys it at a discount in the company store. About 3 cents a round. ' Frank
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I don't understand folks bragging about all the guns they have, the variety of guns they have and how much and what kind of ammo they have stockpiled. Seems to me that is asking for scrutiny by the powers that be. Once it goes on the internet it stays on the internet forever.
It is ashamed that .22s are so expensive. We shot lots on .22s and 410 shotguns over the years. It is an inexpensive and useful way to teach proper use of guns and gun safety. I wasn't allowed to own a gun when I grew up. My Dad was a police court judge and just didn't want guns in his house. I was fortunate to have a neighbor that did have guns and he taught me and my siblings the safe and proper way to use and handle guns, and with my Dad's blessing. In high school(military high school) I was issued a M-1 Garand, was on the firing squad and the rifle team. These days I get more pleasure out of shooting bows than I do shooting guns.
Hey Pat, can I ask what school you went too?
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Benedictine Military School in Savannah, GA, run by Benedictine Catholic priest with ROTC. My Dad graduated in 1918, my older brother in 1964, me in 1969 and my younger brother in 1971.
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The last 22's I bought came from Cipriano. :)
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All stores in NW MN well stocked and normal prices. Seems to be a regional issues as friends in WA State can't find much and it is expensive..
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IMHO it is the hoarders causing the high prices. They are wiling to pay what ever price the seller sets just to have the ammo.
I agree. I am not shooting too much these days and I already own enough ammo to do what I need to do for the next 10 years. I refuse to pay that much for a box of .22 shells that used to cost under a 1.00! I will buy up a little more ammo one of these days when the atmosphere changes and the pendulum swings back the other way. I do feel sorry for the folks with young 'uns they are trying to teach to shoot and for the new shooters who are in the enthusiastic stage who like to burn lots of powder. I wish y'all could have known what it was like when I was a kid. Fifty rounds of .22 was 97 cents at the hardware store and a box of low brass shotgun shells was maybe 2.50 dollars for a box of 25. We thought nothing of spending the day shooting tin cans - it just didn't cost that much. Of course, we also "went riding around" just for fun - gasoline didn't cost much either. Now we are all complaining on the internet about how things used to be...... Oh well. :(
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When I was a kid in the 50s, the local mom and pop tackle shop would sell you as many individual bullets or shotgun shells as you could afford. I don't remember the price but seems like you could get about 5, 22 bullets for a dime and 3 shotgun shells for a quarter. I only made about 50 cents a week off my paper route so this way of buying bullets was just right for me. I could buy a coke, a candy bar and a pocket full of bullets for my 50 cent wage.
Different time; I could buy bullets at any age, a gun as well. We often took our rifles to school with us, left them in the principals office until school was out and then went squirrel hunting.
I never heard of anyone shooting anyone else for any reason during my entire early life, toddler to teenager.
Now they are suspending kids from school if they point their finger like a gun and then charge them with brandishing a class 2 simulated firearm, insane.......
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I know you have to buy .22 rim-fire but I'm just surprised that there are so few people that reload their own center-fire. I've been reloading for more than 40 years and will never have to buy center-fire amo for the rest of my life. As too .22, I have several thousand rounds and won't have to buy any of that either
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Eric, I remember those days, also. The bait store near the house would always keep an open box of .410 and .20 gauge shells. Three empty coke bottles got you a 410 shell.
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Well, during the whole ammo buying craze, the "small game meat-maker" (12 gauge #6 shot) never went up in price here. Everyone was stockpiling .223, 7x62x39mm, and .308 like we were fixin' to get invaded by some major army. Places were sold out. Some people were thinking they'd hunt elk and deer if the country collapsed or some dang thing. Well, 12 gauge #6 is what's going to make meat. The deer and elk would be hunted out in two months if the country fell apart. The meat would be rabbit, jackrabbit, raccoons, feral dogs and cats, and so on. No one thinks about that. They all think deer and elk. Really, raccoon meat makes more sense. Many of the "gettin' ready for the end of society" folks haven't even hunted. Never skinned and gutted. So, how are they going to prepare that meat, assuming the situation happened?
Not to take it too far, but if America did collapse, they'll have a lot of unforeseen variables. Shoot, this state would just up and form itself into a new country. It already wants to. Texas would, too. That's exactly what would happen. States or groups of them would just reorganize as new countries. They've all got National Guard assets plus whatever federal assets existed there and could be seized. Oh, there'd be some bickering and squabbles as every new country shook itself out and figured out what they were going to do. Maybe Arizona would cut off California's access to the Colorado River water until concessions were made on how it was going to be paid for. But the whole shebang ain't going to fall apart and disintegrate into little fiefdoms the size of a town. Not with all those tanks and choppers each state has got in National Guard inventory. A state governor isn't going to pass up the chance to be a king of queen. Our governor here would leap at the opportunity. In fact, we have a state law that says she can raise her own army if she declares a "state emergency".
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Wow.... America isn't finished by a damn sight and the world isn't coming to an end. We are just getting warmed up. I wish people would relax their sphincters so I could buy some .22s, but I will be okay without them for a while... ;D Come to think of it, I am making ten times as much money as I did back then. Maybe it was time for a little price hike. How's that for playing devil's advocate?
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That's what I tell folks Howard,I remember when gas was .23 cents a gal.but I was working on a farm for 5.00 a day, 6am till 6pm ya gas is higher now but I make a little more than 5 a day,to me in most cases it all equals out. ;)
Pappy
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I don't expect the price to get better any time soon. I would like to have like 10-20 thousand rounds and just not have to worry about it for a good long time, not in any desire to hoard it just buying a bunch before the price goes any higher. The shortage makes me pretty happy to own a Henry lever action. I can shoot 22 shorts, long, long rifle with it, so I can usually find ammo when I run short.
Would really like to have myself a CZ 527 in 7.62x39. Not much more expensive to shoot than a rimfire, but very adequate for any sort of rifle hunting or target shooting around here I desire. Short, light, cheap to shoot, made by a quality company. Everything I want in a rifle.
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Well, look on the bright side. We shoot bows and that "ammo" is reusable.
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I am not a survivalist but do have certain "skills" to help me get past a national crisis. I know how to commercial fish (live 1/3 of a mile from Wilson Lake), I have stock pile of commercial snares, steel traps and keep a 300 ft, new, never in the water trot line complete with jump box"just in case". I am thinking about acquiring some dog proof coon traps to add to my stockpile as coons are thick a flies around the house.
The big problem will be keeping less skilled city dwellers from putting you over a spit and having you for dinner, it will happen when hunger starts driving people crazy.
If you can make it 3 weeks you will probably be in the clear as the rest will have fallen by the wayside.
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Survival skills...well, I've got plenty of arrows and I know where all my neighbor's dogs are.
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I'm with Marc on the reloading thing. IMO .38/.357 is the new .22 caliber. I can reload for about $.20 a shell, depending if I can get 10 reloads per brass. So far so good. When I settle into the style of bullet I want, I'll start casting my own lead bullets and that will reduce to cost even more. I checked some online prices of .22's the other day. They seem to range from $.12 a piece for cheapies to $.15-.18 for shells I'd hunt with, to nearly $.25 for premium shells.
I bought a Ruger Blackhawk last fall and quickly realized I needed to start reloading. I could find .38's or .357's fairly often, but they were rarely a style of shell that I wanted. I had a Redding press in my attic that's been there for 25 years unused. So it was time.
In January, I bought a Rossi lever action in .38/,357. With target loads it has not much more kick than a .22. Even with heavier hunting loads, it's kick in no more than my .243, probably less.