Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Lefty8917 on March 03, 2014, 08:17:28 pm
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I just found some cracks developing around the mid limb of this osage bow im working on. This baby is just about done and shooting so SWEET! Any advice on how to save it?? Ive used sinew to fix cracks but never tried a rawhide backing. Any opinions on which would be my best bet?
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Either could work.
If you wrap with sinew around the pins, that would work but you'd probably want to do it to both sides to make your bow look symmetrical. The sinew wrap might also add a stiff spot in the limbs if you put it on too thick.
Personally, I'd probably back the bow with rawhide.
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Is that the back or the belly?
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First off, nice job on pics that we can see. I have had the same problem on pins in the past. Sometimes the cracks stay in the knot and sometimes they dont. I would probably wrap them if it was me but as eric said a rawhide job would also do the trick.
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I would get some super glue in them while under a little stress - maybe a couple of times and then rawhide the back.
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I would be putting a real sinew back on that. Wrapping around something holds it together but provides no fibers running the right way.
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I agree pat. I usually lay some silk lengthwise on the bows back before I wrap it just for that reason. It just seems like it would be stronger.
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I am pretty much with Mike if it's on the belly,if it was the back I would feel better about a repair,super glue might help :-\ I would probably if I still had wood and weight to work with try and take a little off either side of them to take a little pressure off them and shoot it , It will most likely get worse,but who knows it may last a good while.I hate pins for that reason,you never know for sure what they will do. Good Luck. ;)
Pappy
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That sure looks like the back to me and if so I'd probably back the bow instead of patching.
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Looks like the back to me and those pins were taken down too much. I would do as Pat says
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That sure looks like the back to me and if so I'd probably back the bow instead of patching.
That's my vote to, rawhide the whole she-bang and shoot it for life. Id say that's the back or he did one fine job of hiding the belly taper.
The VERY same thing happened to this bow. I added rawhide and a skin. It killed a deer a few months later.
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Hey guys, thanks for the input! Sorry i wasnt more spacific, That is the back of the bow. I did put super glue in the crack yesterday when it was strung. I am leaning toward rawhiding the whole back. Or i can do as pat said an run some sinew lengthwise, then wrap. Ill have to think about it some more, Im torn :-\ The only thing im worried about is the crack seems pretty close to the edge. And as Marc pointed out, i did take the pins down too far. Ill remember that for next time.
And a shoutout to RPS3 for the PICS!! ;D
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Beautiful bow Pearl Drums. Would you mind posting a pic of the rawhid back? Id like to see what she looks like
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Two things Lefty. I don't own it anymore, I gifted it to a friend a few years ago. Also, the rawhide was covered with timber rattler skins.
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With two previous bows I have put rawhide just over the area in question plus a inch or so more in each direction and then wrapped it, then wrapped the other limb in the same place so both limbs look the same. There is no real reason to back the entire bow if you don't want to.
Patrick
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I have an osage stave I am working on that had some pin knots show up going from the back to the belly. There are just a couple, but are in the bending part of the limb. I planned on rawhide backing the bow, but what do I need to do about the belly? She is just roughed down and not even floor tillered, yet. This is going to be a gift for my son and want to be reasonably sure it will hold up.
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Next time, leave those knots a bit proud on the back. That being said, no point in not trying to save this bow. You've injected some CA glue... that's good. If that bow was mine, I'd back it with rawhide. The cracks are in the knots. Knots are stiff and don't bend, and the cracks don't go all the way across the back. If they did, it's toast. Back it, shoot it, keep it... carry on.
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I have an osage stave I am working on that had some pin knots show up going from the back to the belly. There are just a couple, but are in the bending part of the limb. I planned on rawhide backing the bow, but what do I need to do about the belly? She is just roughed down and not even floor tillered, yet. This is going to be a gift for my son and want to be reasonably sure it will hold up.
How bad are the pin knots? Some pin knots clusters are fairly large, I treat those like a regular knot and leave it a little stiff in that area. Most pin knots that go through the stave have not been an issue for me on the back or belly.
I just popped a splinter on a CLEAN piece of osage (first time for that!) so you never know what is going to happen.
Patrick
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I don't want to take over this thread, so when I get some time to take some pics, I will start a new thread. Thanks!
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Here is the finished product from an almost disaster. The bow is 62" and about 53#@26". It has almost 1 1/4" reflex. The back is backed with rawhide and the tip overlays are deer antler. This was my first time using any type of bone or horn for overlays and im extremely satisfied with the results! This bow was a huge learning experience for me. I came across multiple roadblocks with this piece of osage and it turned out to be one of my nicest bows.
Im giving this bow to a co-worker who is mounting a 19" rainbow trout I caught last year. Even trade straight up. He is almost done with my fish so im pretty excited to give him my work and receive his.
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That's a good looking bow right there. Nice work. Great job on the overlays.
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Thanks matt. Now when I see a big buck I will be thinking, man look at all those tip overlays
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Looks like it turned out great. Like the design you have on the rawhide. Nice work.
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Beauty.
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Very nice job on the bow and nice save. For future reference I go along with ADB on this one, looks like you violated the back at the knots, next time follow the back right up the knot and leave it proud.
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not too shabby there..nice rawhide design
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what mark said, the back was taken down too much,,,
looks like several rings got cut,, any way,,, that dont matter now,, just need to make it work,, soooo,,
I would wrap that area with sinew,,, and it will probably hold,, but if it was mine ,, I would back the whole thing with deer hide as well,,
or sinew back the bow,,,
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nice save ,, nice bow ,, congrats B