Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: wapiti1997 on February 13, 2014, 05:02:12 pm
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This is my fourth selfbow. It's 65" NTN, 50# @ 28", from a tree I cut last January that yielded 15 or so straight "boring" staves. I'm giving this one to my brother (he doesn't know), he is the IV of a family name and as a child we called him "Fourthy"... he is also a butcher and I used cow horn overlays..
I will skin it after shooting in. I've only put about 30 arrows through it so far. It is a sweet shooter, in fact I haven't had but one arrow out of the 10 ring, only 10 yards though..
Please critique as I want to improve, not just get patted on the back.
I did flip the tips a bit and add some reflex with dry heat, mainly because I figured I have a little set and it would end up straight...
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first shot...
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Nice looking bow. I like the shape of the handle. Looks to be a shooter also...What type of wood???
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Thanks! It's osage, there is another type that makes bows?? >:D
Lot's of yella wood around here, and I probably have over 75 staves seasoned about a year. I also put up some sassafras, maple, cherry, KY coffetree, ERC, and black walnut.
My "challenge" areas are fades, grip and shelf. I have farrier's rasps, files, only used hand tools so far... It takes me 5x as long to get the fades right as it does to chase a ring and tiller...
BUT.... I have a couple boxes arriving tomorrow from Grizzly!
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It looks great Wapiti. I'm sure Forthy will love Forthy. ;)
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Really like the forth...can't wait to see it skinned. How do you like the cow horn tip overlays?
Oh yea, like that 10 ring arra too! :) ;) Glad to see them fly'n for ya.
DBar
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Bill, I like the way the cow horn works, it's softer than antler. I hope it does what it's supposed to...
The cane arra flew good. I didn't shoot any long shots though, figured it wouldn't fare well under the snow...
You should come by sometime if the weather ever breaks...
I'd like to go shoot the KTBA shoot this weekend but the wife works and I'm playing with the kids.
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Looks like a nice shooter. ;)
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Nice. Looks like a thumper!
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Real nice work Joe!
Tracy
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Nice bow Joe. I like the flipped tips. That's about the same amount of flip that I like to use. The only thing that I could critique on is the handle. There isn't anything wrong with it, just not my style. Its just a matter of preference. I like a small shallow handle. It just seems to fit my hand better. A lot of guys like a deeper handle like yours. With your brother being a butcher I would imagine he has some big tough hands. That handle will probably fit him perfectly. I'm looking forward to seeing your fifth.
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Great job. Looks great. Nothing to critique from here. Looks like a nice shooter. I'm with Clint about the handle. I like mine a little slimmer. But that's nothing to do with the performance of this beauty. Keep up the good work.
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If I was being critical the I would say both mid to outer limbs could comeround some more.
Where is the set you got? Inners?
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Wapiti,
Nice looking bow and good on ya for hooking your brother up...
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Mike, it seems what little set there is, is in the inner 1/3. When it's bending though the whole limb looks good to me. I'm canting the bow a bit in the FD shots.
It's not finished yet, so I have some wiggle room...
Clint, I'm still working on a handle design I like. I don't like the straight thin ones, I kinda like this, and still need to knock off the edges and do final sanding. Thanks!
Thanks everyone!
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First full draw shot looks like it is bending to much out of the fads,the second full draw it looks good there :-\ on the second it does look a little flat mid limb but if you are canting it is really hard to tell from a picture. You ask,but if it works for you it works for me. ;) :) I would shoot it some and if all stays the same finish her up. Nice job, Brother should love that. :)
Pappy
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Looks to be a fine by bow by my eye.
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Nice looking bow he should love it.
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Thanks everyone! I agree Pappy, that it looks stiff in the outer 1/3s. I can't see it when I put it on the tree though.. I did take some off. I marked mid limb to 6" from tip with a marker and scraped the marks away, resanded with 80 grit. I can't tell much difference. Afraid to take much more...
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What was in your boxes from Grizzly? I just put in an order for a couple of boxes from them.
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Joe,
If you don't want to thin any more, maybe you could take a little off the sides mid limb to the tips. :-\ I've done it before and thinned the tips a bit more it helps with making a quiet and no hand shock bow.
just a thought.... :)
Yea what was in the boxes?? I bet Clint's getting a bandsaw ???
DBar
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I got a 14", 1hp bandsaw! I hope it will help me with fades!
I am going to have to replace my overlays.. The cowhorn is too soft, one of them cracked... I may stick with antler for overlays, since I have hundreds of sheds...
I feel like it's already pretty thin, granted I'm chicken...
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Wow that's great wish I had a new bandsaw....just remember you can knock out staves pretty quick...but, you can screw up a stave a lot quicker with power tools too.....I've got experience with that! :)
And as far as the tips, I like sheds the best, but I'm not going to call Blackhawk on you... but u could narrow the last 6-8" some I'm sure. ;) ;D.
It looks great and have some fun with that new saw.
DBar
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Which saw did you get?
Do you have a pic of the horn tip that broke? Horn is a really good overlay material.
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Well done! looks great!
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I know Bill..... yella wood is tough.. but... you can't put it back either... :D
I've roughed out some staves with the table saw... that'll mess one up in a hurry too!
Clint, I got the G0555LANV, now I need to sell that fancy Centaur wall ornament...
What did you get???
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I got the same exact thing. I don't get mine until next week. Maybe you could let me know some tips on assembly?
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Looks like it hits where your aiming and thats what matters most. Also looks like you might have some good hunting timber right out the backyard there to test its killing power. :)
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Nice work there! Sure your Bro will enjoy that!
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I got the same exact thing. I don't get mine until next week. Maybe you could let me know some tips on assembly?
I hope to get mine together soon! We had a power outage and an upright freezer went bad, water all over my shop area... It could be a bit before I tackle the boxes. Get a buddy, it's heavy piece of equipment..
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Good job on that.
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I got the same exact thing. I don't get mine until next week. Maybe you could let me know some tips on assembly?
Mine did not have any assembly instructions or owners manual? Anyhow, the saw is already assembled, it's the stand that has to be put together, it's simple. The hard part is watching my wife set the saw on the stand... well, she hasn't quite done it yet... :o All of my friends are avoiding me.... lol
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I would call them about the missing owners manual. The saw is about 200 lbs isn't it? You might have to offer a friend a cold one to help you put it on the stand. Did the delivery driver help you get it off the truck?
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Well, got it put together, the manual was in fact there, perfectly under the table, and the last thing removed from the box.
The wife did well with lifting it onto the stand.. :P
It was delivered freight UPS, and a tractor trailer can't make it down my road, so I had it delivered near my office.. The driver slid it out of the back into the back of my truck..
He was great about calling 30 minutes before arriving so I could meet him in a big parking lot...
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I really like that bow design. Looks like you nailed it.
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Black rat snake and northern water snake.. My brother's initials are RWL IV = rat-water-longbow.... my fourth.. :D(http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee423/joelacefield/0228141521_zps1735b88e.jpg) (http://s1227.photobucket.com/user/joelacefield/media/0228141521_zps1735b88e.jpg.html)
I like the watersnake look!
(http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee423/joelacefield/0228141521a_zps64dcdab7.jpg) (http://s1227.photobucket.com/user/joelacefield/media/0228141521a_zps64dcdab7.jpg.html)
I highlighted the rat snake pattern with marker, and had a couple of spots where the tape pulled the skin as well as scales..
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Love it!
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I would have never thought to u skins from two different snakes on a bow*. And you pulled it off brilliantly! Love it. And the name is really clever, if your brother doesn't split his face in half from grinning and need plastic surgery, then I will pay the shipping to have it sent here! Uh, the bow, not his face. I don't need his face. Actually, I don't need the bow either, but at least I want the bow, not his face.
*Cha-ching, adding another trick to everybodies trickbag.
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Those skins look great on the bow, sharp looking combo.
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Thanks guys, I didn't know how it would look, honestly I thought the water snake was just bland and dark, wow, did the yella wood make it pop! They were both roadkills, the water snake was too short for much and I wasn't sure about making them the same length.. IMO, they are camo, if not, it's hard to beat the beauty if osage!
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Joe,
Looks like you did a good job on the skins from here. Bring it to Moon Tree so I can see it in person,
DBar
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I will bring it Bill, if I can get it away from him!
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Nice skinning job!
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Snake skins just go perfectly with osage...to me, osage smells like snakes. I really like this bow. Perfect tiller.
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Thanks Carson! I think osage smells sweet, snakes not so much... :D It does make patterns jump.
I think the bottom limb bends a little more, almost a "hingy" spot at 1/3? It is a sweet shooter with hardly any shock...
I will eventually get more confident in thinning the tips more and cutting a shelf to center..
I like the bison horn overlay, may try to put a piece of antler or bone under the next one...
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Nice job. I dig the contrast of the skins. Looks like a very clean skin job.