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Title: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 11, 2014, 06:37:01 pm
I made these poplar arrows for the hickory backed lemonwood ALB I made. The arrow shafts were turned by Charlie Jefferson(Stringstretcher) and I tapered the rear 9" from 11/32" to 5/16"were. These have self nocks wrapped with sinew and a drop of TBIII used as a nock index, the fletching is put on using fletch tape and a sinew wrap at the forward end.  I colored the shafts with wood stain and sealed with two coats of Tru-Oil. The fletching are secondary flight feathers chopped by Matt Gundock(Magnus). The physical weight of the finished arrows came in at about 525 grains with the 125gr points. They shoot well from the ALB.
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Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: stringstretcher on February 11, 2014, 07:00:56 pm
Looking real good Pat.  You seem to be liking those Poplar shafts.  Hopefully in the next couple of  months I will be able (on bended knees here) to make the run from the lumber that has now been air dried for over 2 years.  Should be some good ones.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Fred Arnold on February 11, 2014, 07:14:46 pm
Pat, nice work on those poplar shafts and the use of the secondaries. I purchased 14 dz barrel tapered poplar from Don Stokes a few years ago when he was deleting all of his old stock. Best shafts I've ever used and also seem stronger than a lot of other wood shafts tried. I still like working my own bamboo and cane but they don't compare to the poplar for matched sets.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 11, 2014, 07:24:28 pm
I agree Fred. We figured that out about poplars when Charlie sent me a few to test drive. They are as tough as any doweled shafting I've ever used.  I  like making cane and hardwood shoot arrows mostly but I've really enjoyed using these poplars.
  Charlie, I really do like them and can't wait for more. You'll be back at it before you know.  ;)
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Trapper Rob on February 11, 2014, 07:35:59 pm
You sure do know how to make them Pat.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Danzn Bar on February 11, 2014, 07:49:56 pm
Really nice looking arras Pat!  8)
DBar
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Mohawk13 on February 11, 2014, 07:57:56 pm
Love Poplar for arrow shafts. Light and Strong and durable. Have used it for years. Nice looking arrows Pat...
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Scottski on February 11, 2014, 08:48:32 pm
Drop of glue for nock index I like that. May I use that idea?
Nice arrows by the way.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 11, 2014, 09:09:41 pm
Thanks guys. Nothing fancy about them. just good, solid arrows. I did add a bit of cresting by hand so I won't show a close up of that.  ;D
Scottski I just put a drop of glue just forward of the nock, let it skin over for a minute then rolled the shaft over so the drop was underneath and let it cure like that. When dry it is proud and makes a good index.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: TRACY on February 11, 2014, 09:30:04 pm
Very nice arrows Pat! Really like the nocks and overall appearance.


Tracy
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 12, 2014, 12:13:35 am
If I overshoot the target I'll never find the arrow.  >:(  I thought about putting tracers at the nock for visibility.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pappy on February 12, 2014, 08:19:11 am
Cool arrows Pat, very nice ,hard to beat Charlie's shafts. They been hard on deer the last few years. ;) I will have to try the index you do. I usually just mark the nock,but then I have to look. I like the index and if I am using glue on nocks I always use index nocks. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Jim Davis on February 12, 2014, 01:04:25 pm
Drop of glue for nock index I like that. May I use that idea?
Nice arrows by the way.

Maybe you should ask Saxton Pope for permission on that one, or whoever he got the idea from....
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 12, 2014, 02:02:33 pm
Jim, I didn't realize Saxon Pope used a drop of glue as an index for his arrows. I've been doing it for years and couldn't tell you where I go the idea from.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Jim Davis on February 12, 2014, 06:00:02 pm
Jim, I didn't realize Saxon Pope used a drop of glue as an index for his arrows. I've been doing it for years and couldn't tell you where I go the idea from.

Now my memory is serving up a modified item: I now seem to recall that Pope and Young glued a  tiny bead on the arrow for an index. Too lazy to go look.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Aaron H on February 12, 2014, 07:15:53 pm
Those are beautiful. Does the Tru-oil seal out moisture very well?
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 12, 2014, 07:17:51 pm
I've seen some that used small brads and some of the old timers would make one side of the self nock shorter to use as an index.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 12, 2014, 07:22:41 pm
Falcon, I've used Tru-Oil on my bows for years so I figured why not. It works well.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Mohawk13 on February 12, 2014, 11:34:56 pm
2nd what Pat said. Tru-oil and Johnson wax finish is all I use and have never had a problem with arrows warping or getting water logged. I used to Hunt The Olympic Rain Forest, Hoh River Valley, and they get 120-150 inches of rain a year...That means I was hunting in heavy rain 9 out of 10 days a season...
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Aaron H on February 13, 2014, 07:17:12 am
Great, I've got some Tru-oil and Johnson's furniture wax at home.  Do you use like a scotch brite pad or some fine steel wool after your Tru-oil dries, to knock down the shine a bit?  Also how many coats do you apply before you feel comfortable braving the weather?
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 13, 2014, 08:46:34 am
I use OOOO steel wool between coats to help even out the surface. I don't mind a little shine on arrows.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Aaron H on February 13, 2014, 08:50:20 am
What about your bows?   0000 steel wool also?
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: bowtarist on February 13, 2014, 08:52:00 am
Nice work Pat! Look like they will do the trick! dp
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Pat B on February 13, 2014, 09:13:23 am
Yes, I use steel wool on bows too. I usually use 5 or 6 coats of Tru Oil with the steel wool rubdown between each coat. On hunting bows I give the shiny Tru-Oil finish a quick spray of satin poly to cut the shine.
Title: Re: Poplar arrows for hickory backed lemonwood
Post by: Aaron H on February 13, 2014, 09:18:37 am
Thank you sir