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Title: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 12, 2014, 04:41:39 pm
Just wrapped up another. The handle and tips are laminated mesquite and hickory, both heartwood and sapwood. The bow is osage that my buddy Clint gave me. Its a stave from his Monster osage tree he posted a few years back that yielded 100 plus staves. Fantastic wood Clint! Finished with 6 or 7 coats of Tung oil, I lost track... 8). The string is an 8 strand D97. Its 66" ntn and 48# @ 28". The lower limb is 1" shorter and the shelf is cut just off center and 2" above the center of my 4" handle. Each fade is 3" long. Its an absolute joy to shoot. Ive shot as many arrows through this bow as any in a good while. It hasn't lost any reflex and that profile you see against my garage wall is right after unbracing, it never changes. Its my best effort yet as far as lack of set. It took virtually none. Thanks for looking.



Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 12, 2014, 04:42:34 pm
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Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Pat B on January 12, 2014, 04:46:27 pm
Very nice bow, Pearlie. Very nice!  8)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Weylin on January 12, 2014, 04:46:52 pm
Great looking bow, Chris! The tiller is perfect, as always.  8)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: danny f on January 12, 2014, 04:47:43 pm
thats a cracker i like the handle and tips well done
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: WhitefeatherFout on January 12, 2014, 04:59:09 pm
Very cool.  I really like the way that handle looks. 
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 12, 2014, 05:01:17 pm
Very nice
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 12, 2014, 05:10:40 pm
Boy...that's another nice one Pearl.  8)
DBar
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Cameroo on January 12, 2014, 05:11:51 pm
Very nice.  Tiller is bang-on.  You sir, are a machine  ;)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Zion on January 12, 2014, 05:19:28 pm
Sharp lookin bow. Handle looks nice as well as comfortable.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: IdahoMatt on January 12, 2014, 05:26:37 pm
Great job.  Looks like it shoots well.  That handle seem like it is nice and cozy.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Badger on January 12, 2014, 05:27:09 pm
   I just love it when they hold the profile you start with, you know they are fast. Have you got a place you can shoot a 500 grain arrow to see how far it will go? Good job!!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: bubby on January 12, 2014, 06:06:32 pm
Dang pearls that girl looks like she will hunt, sweet one you got there bud, bub
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: JonW on January 12, 2014, 06:18:58 pm
Very nice Chris. Sounds like one of the "special" ones.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: BOWMAN53 on January 12, 2014, 06:33:11 pm
That's a beauty, i love the handle.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Scottski on January 12, 2014, 06:38:00 pm
Very nice bow and like everyone else I like that handle also.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: RyanR on January 12, 2014, 06:43:06 pm
That one turned out really nice. Is that the one I saw a few weeks ago? Nice work.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: okie64 on January 12, 2014, 07:09:35 pm
Great lookin bow PD! Im liking the way you have quit covering up your handles. ;)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 12, 2014, 07:49:39 pm
Thanks everybody! Yes, the handle is a dream to hold and shoot. I spent more time tweaking that handle than I did tillering the dang thing! I keep waiting to see a little set happen here or there, but Ive shot maybe 500 arrows so far? It just stays put. That means the world to me. All the other fancy stuff is just nice to look at, gotta be a good bow first.

Steve I do have a place to shoot a 500 grain arrow as far as the bow can, just not the weather right now. I shot it at indoor leagues last week and it was still pretty snappy at the 25 yard target.   
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Will H on January 12, 2014, 07:50:50 pm
I love it Pearl! That handle is killer, and the unbraced profile says it all :)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 12, 2014, 07:52:28 pm
That one turned out really nice. Is that the one I saw a few weeks ago? Nice work.

That's it Ryan. Look different?....;)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: DQ on January 12, 2014, 07:57:39 pm
Now that's what I call a bow!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: osage outlaw on January 12, 2014, 07:58:41 pm
That sure turned out nice Pearly.  With that reflex I bet it will fling an arrow pretty quickly.  Great job on the handle and tips. 
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Badly Bent on January 12, 2014, 08:01:36 pm
Nice one Chris, gotta be a smooth shooter looking at those profile shots and your nice tiller. That retained reflex is real impressive as well, you musta treated that one right from stave to finished bow to get those results.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Arrowind on January 12, 2014, 08:16:39 pm
AWESOME!  love the tiller, love the handle.  Good work dude!  Sweet bow! 
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: echatham on January 12, 2014, 08:16:52 pm
i am always impressed with how little set some of you pros get.  as long as i know it can be done im gonna keep tryin.  nice bow.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: seabass on January 12, 2014, 08:20:41 pm
very nice Chris.i am loving the handle.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PNewton on January 12, 2014, 08:37:50 pm
Great looking bow.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 12, 2014, 08:43:00 pm
That sure turned out nice Pearly.  With that reflex I bet it will fling an arrow pretty quickly.  Great job on the handle and tips. 

Guys who know? Give their buddies OSAGE for Christmas! Thanks again Clintster.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Gaust on January 12, 2014, 08:45:13 pm
Beautiful bow!  I love your work!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: burchett.donald on January 12, 2014, 09:01:17 pm
  Chris,
           Tiller is immaculate and I like the handle also. Good job on retaining reflex 8)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: adb on January 12, 2014, 09:05:56 pm
Very nice my friend... very nice. I see what you were talking about. Truly inspiring!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: mwosborn on January 12, 2014, 09:06:49 pm
That is a sweet one - nice work!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Trapper Rob on January 12, 2014, 09:16:39 pm
Beautiful bow riser looks sharp.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: paulsemp on January 12, 2014, 10:03:35 pm
That one finished up nice! Reflex is impressive and I bet the cast is top notch
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: hammertime on January 12, 2014, 10:10:11 pm
great tip and handle work it flows with the bow nicely!Great bow!-Hammertime
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: SLIMBOB on January 12, 2014, 10:49:37 pm
That unbraced says it all.  Very nice Sir!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: koan on January 12, 2014, 11:05:57 pm
Brother, that is one fantastic bow... Brian
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on January 12, 2014, 11:12:02 pm
Dang, that handle/tip glue up looks smashing rad bow.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Gus on January 13, 2014, 04:05:00 am
Yes Sir!

That is a Real Beauty!

Everything I could say has been said...

But Damn!

:)

-gus
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: mikekeswick on January 13, 2014, 04:18:26 am
Unbraced says it all. That one looks like a screamer!
The handle's not to my taste but you can't please everyone.... >:D ;D >:D
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: chamookman on January 13, 2014, 04:55:09 am
Again Chris - not enough E's in SWEEEEEEEEEEET ! Awsome - Bob.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: simson on January 13, 2014, 06:17:17 am
She's a beauty, great profile!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: blackhawk on January 13, 2014, 07:09:06 am
 8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Pappy on January 13, 2014, 07:27:22 am
Beautiful bow Chris,very nice work. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: dwardo on January 13, 2014, 08:19:27 am
Very nice chief !  8) Looks screaming fast.

The weight is also perfect. All the bows I have made recently are way to heavy and quickly a chore.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 13, 2014, 08:31:06 am
Thanks again everybody! Its a pleasant bow to shoot. I favored 55-60#bows since I started shooting traditional glass bows in the mid 90"s. But,  after making a few low 40# and up bows, I think I like it! Its easy to shoot 40-50 arrows and not feel a thing, or have bad habits creep in after 15-20 shots. I skinnied these tips right up to aid in the "lower" weight and made a skinny(ish) string for it.

By the way, the shelf area is 2" deep, if anybody wondered.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: seminolewind on January 13, 2014, 09:04:27 am
That is a real beauty ! I really like it and hope one day I will be at this skill level too ! Did you cut the laminations from your own cured wood or did they come from boards ?

Keep it up its an inspiration !
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 13, 2014, 09:15:06 am
Thanks seminolewind! I was given the mesquite by a glass bowyer and the hickory was left over ends from 72" backers I made. Its actually quite easy. Just glue it all together and shape it as one piece.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: seminolewind on January 13, 2014, 09:18:01 am
Nice ! I was gonna ask you how you prepare the handle portion of the stave and get it flat enough to take the laminations. I am assuming a bench belt sander ?....Are you using TBIII for your laminations? I have a stave waiting on me when I get home and would like to do something similar. Thanks !
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 13, 2014, 09:42:55 am
I used all hand tools. A rasp will get the stave flat and ready for glue if you keep it level. Don't let the top and bottom of your stroke round the edges off, keep the surface dead flat. I use my scraper to check for gaps before glue up. Yes, TBIII is what I used.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: seminolewind on January 13, 2014, 09:49:41 am
Roger that thanks ! Have a good one man !
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: rps3 on January 13, 2014, 09:50:54 am
Good one Chris, I like how you made the fades 3 inches long without making them appear too long.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 13, 2014, 11:14:54 am
Thanks Bob. With that deeper handle and slightly abrupt fades they tend to run upward rather than outward, appearing longer. I sure like the sight window created with long fades. It just seems to open your view to the target.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: paoliguy on January 13, 2014, 01:12:08 pm
You can tell that bow is smooth drawing just looking at the picture! Beautiful piece of work.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Carson (CMB) on January 13, 2014, 02:15:32 pm
Yup, that unbraced profile says it all.  Looks like an arrow spittin machine!  I am still trying to turn out that zero set bow.  I think that speaks a lot to the design and tiller when they come right back to where they started.  Very sweet bow. 
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Ed Brooks on January 13, 2014, 02:26:08 pm
Nice looking bow PD.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 13, 2014, 02:50:14 pm
 
Yup, that unbraced profile says it all.  Looks like an arrow spittin machine!  I am still trying to turn out that zero set bow.  I think that speaks a lot to the design and tiller when they come right back to where they started.  Very sweet bow. 

Carson I made a new caul 3 bows ago and LOVE it. I have no more than a 1/2" of reflex in the first half of the limb, then it goes right up to 3" to the tips. It works too good man. I didn't change the way I build or tiller bows, the new can have ALL the credit.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Parnell on January 13, 2014, 03:02:05 pm
Beautiful design and execution.  It looks as close to flawless as they'll come.  Impressive, Chris!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 13, 2014, 03:12:38 pm
Ive chased that profile for 200 bows Stevie!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: vinemaplebows on January 13, 2014, 04:41:25 pm
Nice bow Pearlie! :)
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Joec123able on January 13, 2014, 04:45:07 pm
Wow that is insanely gorgeous it's kinda funny to think that bow I posted yesterday came from the same tree as yours lol
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 13, 2014, 04:46:37 pm
There is another coming from that tree Joe, but Ill let the new owner show her off in a few days...;)   
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Blackcoyote on January 13, 2014, 04:47:46 pm
you're a bow making machine! Love that unbraced profile!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: bushboy on January 13, 2014, 04:55:07 pm
Wicked job on that one indeed!do You have a front shot of it?I'd also like to see your new caul. Please.thx's
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 13, 2014, 04:57:49 pm
Ive been asked for that a few times bushy, Ill snap a pic tonite and post it.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: DuBois on January 13, 2014, 05:54:06 pm
I don't think I know enough to say "I love that profile" very often, but I love that profile Mr. Pearlie. Thanks and I will be looking for the caul too. I think I better make one somtime soon.
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: wapiti1997 on January 13, 2014, 09:37:18 pm
That's a stunning bow! Well done, I love the grip, shelf, tips, everything!  I'd like to see that one in person!
Title: Re: My favorite so far
Post by: Steve Milbocker on January 14, 2014, 09:06:09 am
Wow! Beautiful bow!
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 14, 2014, 04:17:54 pm
I was asked a few times to snap a pic of the caul I used for this bow. The ruler is 36". It drops about 3/4" 18" from center, each way. Then it drops off to a total of about 3". Its 68" long.
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: soy on January 14, 2014, 05:59:28 pm
Nice looking tips ! Great look all around!
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: seminolewind on January 15, 2014, 05:46:21 am
Pearl did you use steam or heat before clamping it down ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 15, 2014, 09:19:13 am
Dry heat Elijah. That's all I use unless Im bending static tips in a bow.
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: Parnell on January 15, 2014, 10:05:19 am
Just made a similar caul for a 70" Osage I got going, Pearlie.  How big are the clamp holes?  2"?   Got about 3/4 of the bow clamped down last night and the last heavier limb-end reflex will be tonight.  Working with cauls is fun, but I need more clamps!!!

You aren't keeping that bow?! ???
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 15, 2014, 10:08:27 am
I think mine are 1 1/2" holes Steve? But not all clamps are the same. Check yours out and bore them accordingly. I use bar clamps mostly, they wont crush the belly. Even a padded C-clamp will dent the belly if you have to tighten them down enough.
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: DGF on January 15, 2014, 03:26:12 pm
Nice bow for sure Chris!

-Dan
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: dbb on January 16, 2014, 05:13:17 pm
Sweet tiller on that one!
Perhaps  not the contrasting woods i would have chosen but still a pretty bow  ;)
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 16, 2014, 05:31:55 pm
dbb I think we sometimes get caught up thinking osage stays yellow. I try to think down the road and make combos that will look nice when the wood darkens in 2-3 years.
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: Mark Smeltzer on January 16, 2014, 05:59:20 pm
Like those tips allot and that unbraced profile is very nice, wish all mine turned out with that profile.
Mark
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: dbb on January 17, 2014, 04:34:10 pm
dbb I think we sometimes get caught up thinking osage stays yellow. I try to think down the road and make combos that will look nice when the wood darkens in 2-3 years.
So true,i didnt think that far ahead  :-[
Guess it shows my "n00bness"  ::)
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 17, 2014, 04:45:42 pm
I wasn't belittling your opinion at all friend, just letting you know why I chose what I did.
Title: Re: My favorite so far (caul pics pg 5)
Post by: Aaron H on February 18, 2014, 08:58:19 pm
nice laminates.  I like the contrast