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Title: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Ink on January 05, 2014, 06:14:10 pm
Okay I was able to procure some of the nicest osage I've ever gotten my hands on. See pic below. Some of the rings are almost a 1/2" and the piece is about 43" long. I was already able to cut this into two billets using the large heart wood rings. I'm wanting to make a takedown with it. Does anyone have any good suggestions or links for makeing your own takedown sockets?
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Pat B on January 05, 2014, 07:03:25 pm
Somewhere there is a "how to" for a take down handle made from fiberglass strips. There was an article in an od PA magazine too.  Also in an old PA was an article about making a take down sleeve from 1 1/2" rigid conduit. This one was written by Rusty Crain and Mike Westvang.
Big Jim(I don't think he is a PA sponsor) has a FG take down handle kit but I think its pretty pricy.
Do a search in the "how to" section. 
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Ink on January 05, 2014, 07:44:53 pm
I'll check those out. Thanks Pat
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Blaflair2 on January 05, 2014, 07:49:37 pm
Just join em in a pipe and glue and pin em. How much would u actually have it apart?
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: bubbles on January 05, 2014, 07:50:49 pm
I started a thread about takedown options a month or two ago. Thick rawhide was also suggested as an option for a takedown sleeve.  Havnt tried it myself though.
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Accipiter on January 05, 2014, 07:58:24 pm
I am just finishing a deer rawhide sleeve takedown. Its been pulled to 24" or so and hasn't gone boom yet. I'll keep you posted (literally) in the next few days,
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Dan K on January 05, 2014, 08:05:50 pm
There was a post I think here on PA from a guy over in Germany who used stainless steel tubing inside schedule 80 pipe. Do a search and send him a PM to see how it worked.
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Ink on January 05, 2014, 09:24:29 pm
Was considering the rawhide option. Saw some posts about it on other sites. Wonder if raw hide wrapped with sinew would work. Would be cool to make one from all primitive materials. I might experiment with that and see how it works. One guy tested some simple paper wrapped around several times bound tightly with linen thread and super glue. He said it's been shot about 20 times and was still holding. Well off to experiment, I'll post back here once I do some testing.
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Ink on January 05, 2014, 09:30:42 pm
Blair - that would be a great option if I was just looking to mate two pieces together quickly. But I'm looking at options to use on bows I'll be giving to other people.

Bubbles - didn't catch that one. Woulda saved me some effort

Accipiter -  let me know how that's works for you!

Dan k - do you remember his name on this site?
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Ink on January 05, 2014, 10:23:12 pm
As an additional thought for the rawhide/sinew socket, using a sinew cord to tightly wrap the rawhide. Might be the better way to go than just glueing on a bunch of sinew then having it tighten as it dries and not being able to get the other limb in after a few months. Would also be more aesthetically pleasing of a handle.
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: bubby on January 05, 2014, 10:33:34 pm
There is a guy on here from Alaska that made a very cool t/d without any type of sleeve, if you do a search on all primitive t/d you may find it
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Ink on January 05, 2014, 11:01:52 pm
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,38294.0.html

Found it, that one is going into my bag of tricks. Very cool
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Blacktail on January 06, 2014, 12:21:16 am
HOLY COW JASON..that is the holy grail of osage...MAN,that is some fine wood...even i could chase that...great find..john
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: snag on January 06, 2014, 10:35:59 am
Carson sells a reasonably priced metal takedown sleeve.  Trying to find some time to put mine to use....
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Pat B on January 06, 2014, 10:38:58 am
I'd be concerned about moisture with a rawhide/sinew takedown system form both the atmosphere and your hands.
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: tallpine on January 06, 2014, 11:52:42 am
If I had that nice piece of Osage I would spend the money on a  store bought t/d sleeve. They are inexpensive when you figure the time you are going to invest in that bow. Just my opinion backed up by personal experience, good luck, should make an awesome bow.
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 06, 2014, 12:07:35 pm
You can make your own.  I wrote an article for PA on a 2 PC take-down made with my own socket that was published 3 or 4 issues ago.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/Marc-St-Louis/Takedowns/2%20PC%20Takedown/OsageTakedown.jpg)
Title: Re: Self sockets for take downs?
Post by: bow101 on January 06, 2014, 03:25:21 pm
I read that article, very good as a matter of fact I'll probably try that some day.  I can see a fiberglass sleeve been more giving than steel and not adding as much weight to the bow.