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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: okie64 on December 21, 2013, 04:33:51 pm

Title: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: okie64 on December 21, 2013, 04:33:51 pm
Been lots of talk on here lately about short bows and longbows so I thought I would post some pics of the last 3 bows I've finished up. They are 56", 42", 36". They are 50@27", 50@22", and 50@19". The 56" is sinew backed because of the 8" of stiff handle. The 36" bow was a small belly split so it was kinda just for fun and probably wont get used much. Dont get me wrong, I like longbows too but ive just been a shortbow kick lately. Rain all day today and Im bored so lots of pics :) Thanks for lookin

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/null_zps2534e5c4.jpg)
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/null_zpsf3816ebe.jpg)
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/null_zps29bb929b.jpg)
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/null_zpsda49056b.jpg)
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/null_zpsfa78eea7.jpg)
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: okie64 on December 21, 2013, 04:36:50 pm
Drawn pics
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/null_zpsde7b9da9.png)
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/null_zpse8a5fd3a.png)
(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/null_zpscc3e7039.png)
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: half eye on December 21, 2013, 06:02:34 pm
Um, old man like, especially that middle bow. Looks like venison sandwich's to me for sure. Very nice on all of them. I'm curious how come ya got the middle bow braced that high? Anyways those are very nice, sir.
rich
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: Badly Bent on December 21, 2013, 06:09:52 pm
Nice bows Okie, excellent tillers on all of them. You got some good draw length and weight out of them too, thats some fine work.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: echatham on December 21, 2013, 06:29:34 pm
nice job.  just curious... whats the point of a 50@19... or 22" for that matter.. bow?  are you actually going to shoot them drawing that short or do ya got a really strong 1st grader?
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: Joec123able on December 21, 2013, 06:42:09 pm
nice job.  just curious... whats the point of a 50@19... or 22" for that matter.. bow?  are you actually going to shoot them drawing that short or do ya got a really strong 1st grader?

Lol "what's the point " Totally irrevalvant question
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: wood_bandit 99 on December 21, 2013, 06:50:41 pm
nice job.  just curious... whats the point of a 50@19... or 22" for that matter.. bow?  are you actually going to shoot them drawing that short or do ya got a really strong 1st grader?

Hmm.... Maybe because lots of Indians and tribes around the world would draw short and have high poundage for absolutely unnecessary things like horse back shooting and just over all dense cover shooting or maybe they couldn't get wood that long or....  ::) so why would anyone try to do THAT if it is that pointless? ::) just messing with ya ecatham but you kinda came off ignorant.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: Don Case on December 21, 2013, 07:05:51 pm
but you kinda came off ignorant.

Only if you're looking for ignorant >:D
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: Arrowind on December 21, 2013, 07:27:06 pm
Nice look'n bows!
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: SLIMBOB on December 21, 2013, 07:39:41 pm
Sweet Okie.  All nice but I'm particularly fond of No. 1.  Great shape to it.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: Dave 55 on December 21, 2013, 08:48:40 pm
Very nice Ive been thinking about the shorter bows myself,dont expect theyed come out as well as yours tho.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: dbb on December 21, 2013, 09:39:20 pm
Nice looking trio you got there!
no1 is the one for me,never got used to short draw bows but they are still nice to look at  ;)
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: Trapper Rob on December 21, 2013, 10:30:43 pm
Nice group of bows.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: sleek on December 21, 2013, 10:35:43 pm
Put the small one on a prod!
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: Carson (CMB) on December 21, 2013, 10:41:06 pm
Those are some sweet arrow flingers! I really like the photos.  The bows look like they belong together, like siblings in a family photo.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: JonW on December 21, 2013, 11:26:45 pm
Very cool Okie. They do look a family.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: okie64 on December 22, 2013, 01:12:05 am
Thanks for all the kind words fellas.
@Rich, I might need to take a few twist outta that string. I didnt realize I did have it braced that high till you pointed it out.

@Echatham, I do shoot them at that draw length. Its not that hard to do once you get used to it, you should try it sometime. Aside from the eastern woodlands tribes, most of the indians made their bows short length and only drew them to 20" or so. I dont like to draw a bow more than half its length for a bendy handle bow so thats the main reason for the short draw. I usually just tiller these little bendy handle osage bows till they have taken about an inch of set and most of the time thats about half the length of the bow.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: IdahoMatt on December 22, 2013, 03:21:47 am
Very nice job.  I really like the middle one.  Turned out great.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: mwosborn on December 22, 2013, 09:49:23 am
Very nice!  The tiller looks great to me - takes some serious tillering skills to make them short I would think.

Bandit - we are all ignorant about something - ignorance is just not understanding something - there are lots of things I don't understand!!! 

So...here are some questions.

Okie - do you hunt with your short bows?  If you were to use one with around a 20" draw for example,  how is the accuracy out to say 18-20 yards?  (I realize that depends on the shooter of course)  But is it difficult to shoot consistently out to that range?

Do you have an anchor point?  Is your bow arm bent quite a bit? Got any shooting tips?  I am thinking I might one to try one of these short ones!

Thanks!

Mitch
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: koan on December 22, 2013, 10:05:27 am
Really nice bunch there! I love me some shorties!.... Brian
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: okie64 on December 22, 2013, 04:15:27 pm
@Mitch, Yes I do hunt with these shortbows but I try to pick my stand locations where my shots will be 10 yards and under. With practice they can be very accurate out to 20 yards but like you said that kinda depends on the shooter and how much you practice. I point the bow and draw it like any other bow and when I feel it start to stack I turn it loose, snap shooting I guess you might call it. Its not that hard once you get a feel for it. I still hunt with longer bows too and yeah I do shoot them with more accuracy but sometimes a shorter bow just feels better to carry to the woods. Ryan Gill(twistedlimbs) has some pretty good shooting videos on youtube that you should take a look at. He has them posted over on the hunting and shooting forum if youre interested. I'll see if I can find them and post a link here in a bit.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: okie64 on December 22, 2013, 05:33:18 pm
Heres that link. This is pretty much the same way I shoot short draw bows.
http://youtu.be/414_zlmriAo
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: mullet on December 22, 2013, 05:40:10 pm
The Bear family, Papa, Mama, and Baby Bear ;D, I like them all.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: mwosborn on December 22, 2013, 11:58:59 pm
Thanks for the link okie - I liked it and might have to try some short bows - I have some really nice shorter staves - in the 50" range that would be some good candidates.
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: echatham on December 23, 2013, 02:31:52 am
Jeeze didnt mean to come off ignorant haha.  I meant it as a serious question.  Was wondering if he intended to shoot it or if it was a test bow or something.  Rereading my post it does sound like a dumb question.  I wasnt totally oblivious to the fact that some people short draw. I have seen Ryan Gills videos.  So.... I stand educated. 
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: echatham on December 23, 2013, 02:53:45 am
Another way to respond to that would be:  perhaps i came off ignorant because i am in fact ignorant.  I dont have a fraction of the experience of most of you guys and i freely admit that.  When i ask a question on these forums it has never been to "question" anybody's know how.  Im only asking a question cause i actually wanted to know.     
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on December 23, 2013, 04:13:44 am
Those are some fine lookin bent sticks sir!  I like shooting the short ones Ishi style, it seems easier from a crouch and if done right seems to minimize left/right missage for me. 
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: okie64 on December 23, 2013, 09:16:26 am
@echatham, I didnt take your question as offensive by any means, best way to get educated is to ask questions. You never know what someones tone is when reading it on a computer screen so I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and assume they are not being smartellic. :D
Title: Re: "Medium" osage and couple shorties
Post by: echatham on December 23, 2013, 09:32:12 am
No worries Okie. It wasn't you that i felt took offense at my question.  sorry guys, i was cranky last night.  O:)