Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Dan K on December 18, 2013, 08:33:30 pm
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I recently got my first Robin Hood and didn't have anyone to share the excitement with. I thought it would be fun if everybody posted their arrow splitting expertise. I can't honestly say I tried to split a $10 arrow but it was in the bull's-eye and that is what I was shooting at. Anyway, if any of you have a picture you want to share please post. Here's mine.
(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag157/dankirkpatrick/null_zpsb435637b.jpg)
(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag157/dankirkpatrick/null_zps85660476.jpg)
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Don't have the side view...
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j380/thadsoy/IMG_20130524_032107_443.jpg)
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I honestly can't understand why anyone could get excited over ruining a perfectly good arrow ;D. It's most certainly always an accident :'(. But hey, that's just me. So, congratulations! ;)
If you like, I can share a little secret to help prevent that from happening in the future........Art
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Definitely Art. Accident or not, not everyone can say they've done it! This threads just for fun so what's your secret? Something tells me this will be good.
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It's a very simple procedure Dan. A 1/4"to 3/8"" thread wrap under the nock is all it takes. You can use any ol thread, be it cotton or polyester, makes no difference. No special knots or any thing like that needed. Just start wrapping the thread right under the nock, and when you get the amount of wrap you want, snip it off. Now take some fletching or wood glue and swipe it around the wrap (couple times at least).
90-95% of the time the nock will bust off with little to no damage to the taper. Most times it's a matter of removing some damaged plastic nock and replacing with a new one. Sometimes a little wood repair in in order to the taper. But I have never ever had a shaft split that was nocked wrapped. Here's a few pics:
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Ah yes. I do this on shoot arrows so makes sense to do it on all of them. Thanks for the idea.
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If I find that picture of one sourwood arrow sticking in another I'll post it for you Dan. Because of it's thread wrap, I was able to repair the self-nock and save the arrow.
Well, couldn't find the pic I wanted of the Robin Hood arrow but did find it's repair.
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that is a great idea art does it affect the balance adversely from the Foc?
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Here's one...
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that is a great idea art does it affect the balance adversely from the Foc?
I doubt if the thread and glue adds more than a grain or two of weight Soy. Nothing that you will notice as far as affecting FOC. I probably have more differences in weight in my rear tapers than that..........Art
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Nice shot Adam.
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OK, I found the pics I was looking for earlier. I showed the repair in the pics above. Here's where it started......Art
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Nice!!
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Ohhh yeahhh baby! Saweeet shot! 8)
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So much work goes into making our arrows it's a shame to lose one to an errant shot. So wrap that nock area well, be it plastic or self.
Here's that same (repaired) arrow today with a mounted broadhead that Brother Dan sent me..........Art
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I shoot at multiple targets to keep from hitting arrows. A true Robin Hood is done on purpose, all else is an accident. Although if you search the pages here I posted a similar thread to this a couple years ago. ;) Nice arrows Art!
I only shoot at other peoples nocks now. >:D dp
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Thanks Bowtarist! Best way I've found to not hit the other arrow is to shoot right at it ;D. But accidents do happen......Art
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I've never taken a photo but i've got a pile of many tens of arrows with busted nocks because of this...I really should get round to fixing them all!
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I remember busting my first plastic nock off and ruining the arrow. That's when I started wrapping with thread under the nocks even on plastic nocked arrows. That was many years ago. I've not lost and arrow since. All have been repairable. Most nocks I use these days seem to bust away much easier with little to no damage to the taper. Sometimes a little wood has to be replaced of the nock taper however, and even that can be made easier if the part of the damaged nock/wood can be found...........Art
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Here's my 'best' RH ever... with CF arrows mind you, but still pretty cool. Gold Tip 3355 traditionals .
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That's cool, and bites at the same time! I've only done that twice, but with aluminum, and in the same day :'(.......Art
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Thanks art! Man you make some cool arras 8)
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Thank you Soy, I appreciate that! Art
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Here is one I did a few ears ago. Self nocks are too much work so I rarely shoot groups anymore. This isn't the actual RH but a dramatization of it... ;D
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/forPA021.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/primitive%20archer/forPA021.jpg.html)
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I know how that feels Pat. We put so much work into this type of arrow only to have that happen. It sucks!!!!!!!!!
Tough enough being an arrow-maker, but you have to be a repairman too! ;D
Sometimes I think I'm a better shot than I actually am, and sure as shootin', I'm back in the repair business again. :'( You'd think I'd learn.........Art
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Hard to teach us old dogs sometimes. ;D
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I've seen some pretty nice knock inserts made from bone. I often wondered why someone would go to all that work to make a knock when a self knock can be done. Now I know. It'd work well for this purpose when you don't want to re-fletch and shorten your arrow.(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag157/dankirkpatrick/IMG_3614_zps0bf1cf31.jpg) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/dankirkpatrick/media/IMG_3614_zps0bf1cf31.jpg.html)
(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag157/dankirkpatrick/IMG_3613_zps4c3ee901.jpg) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/dankirkpatrick/media/IMG_3613_zps4c3ee901.jpg.html)
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I've seen some pretty nice knock inserts made from bone. I often wondered why someone would go to all that work to make a knock when a self knock can be done. Now I know. It'd work well for this purpose when you don't want to re-fletch and shorten your arrow.(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag157/dankirkpatrick/IMG_3614_zps0bf1cf31.jpg) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/dankirkpatrick/media/IMG_3614_zps0bf1cf31.jpg.html)
(http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag157/dankirkpatrick/IMG_3613_zps4c3ee901.jpg) (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/dankirkpatrick/media/IMG_3613_zps4c3ee901.jpg.html)
I've seen some like those made of horn on ebay for dirt cheap. They look pretty cool. These are some crazy robin hoods yall! I am lucky enough to be such a crappy shot I don't have this problem, ;D.
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I have never had a self nock break except when hit with another arrow. I have had quite a few plastic nocks break and I've heard of folks using the bone nocks and having them break. A broken nock can mean a broken bow so I'll stick with my self nocks. ;)
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I've seen some like those made of horn on ebay for dirt cheap. They look pretty cool. These are some crazy robin hoods yall! I am lucky enough to be such a crappy shot I don't have this problem,
Yet! ;D
Wrap those horn nocks too if you go that route. I've heard of 'em breaking.........Art
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Yep same experience Pat. I had some plastic knocks break while using my heavier bow and hurt my shoulder. I only shoot self knocks out of it now for the same reason. I've never used bone or horn and am surprised to hear they would break.
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Bone and horn also have a grain like wood so you have to consider the grain when making nocks from either.
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First time I met Pat in Elberton I had three break in a row. I had a pretty goose egg on my arm and didn't want to shoot anymore. I traded all of my horn and bone nocks away. Most of those sold on ebay are actually pressed bone and horn, the same thing they make fake ivory statues out of.
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First time I met Pat in Elberton I had three break in a row. I had a pretty goose egg on my arm and didn't want to shoot anymore. I traded all of my horn and bone nocks away. Most of those sold on ebay are actually pressed bone and horn, the same thing they make fake ivory statues out of.
Hmm, good to know.
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I've never had any trouble using deer antler. But............you only want to use the tips only.
Like this..........
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First time I met Pat in Elberton I had three break in a row. I had a pretty goose egg on my arm and didn't want to shoot anymore. I traded all of my horn and bone nocks away. Most of those sold on ebay are actually pressed bone and horn, the same thing they make fake ivory statues out of.
Hmm, good to know.
+1
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Interesting I have never broken a plastic nock during a shot, only when hitting arrows in the target. I use plenty of glue to fill the pocket at the top of the nock taper. I wonder if an air pocket here creates a weak spot?
I have busted plenty of nocks and blew up the shaft a bit more than once, but I have never split one quite like this. This photo is one my dad pulled off. He claims it was at 28 yards and likes to point out it is in the bulls eye.
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I knew there was seething I liked about your dad :) ;)
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Here is one. The "male" arrow is still dandy and being shot today. It is a POC shaft. The nock was perfectly split. See the shadow? Looks like two complete nocks.
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That was a nice straight grained arrow there PD.
Good shot by Pops CMB.
dp
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Looks like the mythbusters may need to go back and try again , they tried it a few times and said it couldn't be done .
I've busted nocks and dinged arrows up but have yet to split an arrow ( with traditional that is ).