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Title: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: dane lund on November 20, 2013, 11:18:01 pm
Per my earlier post, I'm coming into an ash, shagbark hickory, and mulberry stave.
I'm thinking of making a  Holmegaard  bow from one.  To date, I've not been able to find a good drawing of a Holmegaard bow.

Any help out there??.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: bubbles on November 20, 2013, 11:59:58 pm
Google holmgaard bow, and look at the images. You'll find lots of pics and a few layouts.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: DuBois on November 21, 2013, 01:02:31 am
If you scroll down a bit on the home page, there is a section called "Howto's and build along's" I think there are some in there. Or if you search this site for holmegaard, you should turn some up.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: }|{opukc on November 21, 2013, 01:45:30 pm
(http://prikachi.com/images/160/6776160s.jpg)
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: PatM on November 21, 2013, 02:15:35 pm
It's amazing that people turned that obvious basic flatbow into the pre-mollegebet style. There is only the vaguest suggestion of a shoulder in one limb and with the more irregular outer limb on that side makes it  a very doubtful conclusion.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: Slackbunny on November 21, 2013, 02:20:19 pm
It does look pretty flatbowish. But then, its hard to tell from pictures. Perhaps the style is more pronounced in 3D.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: PatM on November 21, 2013, 02:43:50 pm
If you draw it out as they did based on the caliper measurements you don't see much of the original lever ideas coming to life. It might have been a bit hingy near the handle but the levers would be far from refined.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: }|{opukc on November 22, 2013, 01:32:18 am
The Elm bow is 58" and pulls 45 # 26" full open of 28". Design is like "holmegaard".

(http://i49.tinypic.com/feh0n6.jpg)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/w9egy8.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/zv4k2b.jpg)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/9stpon.jpg)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/nwkhsk.jpg)

G.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: blackhawk on November 22, 2013, 07:25:27 am
Lets clarify some things here....are you wanting to make an exact replica or near that to the original found artifact? Or a more modern style holmgaard/mollegabet/lever bow?
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: dane lund on November 22, 2013, 10:24:12 am
I'd like to build a current bow, using the style and principals of the Holmgaard. Wide working limbs, narrow, thick static tips.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: }|{opukc on November 22, 2013, 11:12:55 am
Holmgaard bow is more like a pyramid style. That which you speak is mollegabet/lever bow.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: PatM on November 22, 2013, 12:08:42 pm
Looks pretty clear that the original doesn't have static tips. The above replica looks very close in side profile and it's whippy if anything.
 You're definitely still back in that era when the Mollegebet and Holmegaard were confused.
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: blackhawk on November 22, 2013, 12:48:25 pm
OK...now more questions...  ;D are these staves in your possesion yet? Pics? And what are your time intended stats and use for the bow?
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: dane lund on November 22, 2013, 03:02:17 pm
The slats are not in my possession yet. About another week.
My purpose so a soft shooting, accurate bow for myself.  Like about a 40-45# bow @ 28". Playing, primitive target shooting, etc. I just like the idea, and design of the static tips, low hand shock design.  Maybe I'm mistaken, but the design above looks more like a pyramid.
Am I classifying this wrong? Is the design I'm seeking actually a Mollegebet?
Maybe an American Native design would be better?
Title: Re: Holmegaard sesign
Post by: PatM on November 22, 2013, 03:09:01 pm
Yes, you want a Mollegebet but for your purposes any basic well made bow will do the job.