Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Pat B on November 15, 2013, 01:25:52 am
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Last spring I decided to do a little spring cleaning and go through my rediculous collection of hardwood shoots and thin it out. A brought an armful to Patrick(Jackcrafty) at the Classic last spring and he said he'd send me something in return.
When I checked the mail today there was a USPS triangular box sticking out. I knew what it was because I got a PM from Patrick telling me to look out for a package.
I was soooo surprised when I opened the box. I had to split the box lengthwise and this is what was inside...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Msturkey004_zpsb094e47a.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/Msturkey004_zpsb094e47a.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Msturkey006_zps298e43f4.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/Msturkey006_zps298e43f4.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Msturkey005_zpsddabb213.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/Msturkey005_zpsddabb213.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Msturkey007_zps4069d1d4.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/Msturkey007_zps4069d1d4.jpg.html)
There are 4 arrows with bulbous nock, tied on feathers with red, black and green cresting, 3 arrows with stone points hafted with pitch glue and sinew wrapped and one blunt arrow. Patrick built these arrows opposite of the way I make mine with the butt end of the shoot is the nock end, I guess to accomidate the bulbous nock...plus these are authentic replicas.
Also Patrick sent 7 stone points of different styles and 6 osage foreshafts, 5 hafted with colored glass points and one with a bone point.
I'll have to make a special display for these treasures. I'm sure a few of the loose stone points will go on some hunting arrows.
Thanks Patrick. You are too generous.
I have more shoots if you want 'em. ;D
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Dang that would be a package anyone would love to get. That's what you get for being nice Pat. Keep cleaning and see what other packages show up ;)
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DAAAAAAANG!
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NICE !
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Man that is some nice stuff Pat,Patrick makes some beautiful arrows. :)
Pappy
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Patricks arrows are works of art. Pat you are a lucky guy
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Wowsers! Nice job Patrick, and Pat for sharing your overflow.
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Nice!!! Now run one thru something ;D
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OOOEEEE! now that is a fine package to receive in the mail. Great work!! Mr. Lucky!! dp
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JACKPOT !!!!
I would be like a little kid at Christmas when I opened that........
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Patrick does make some fine arrows! I have some he mailed years ago and they are works of art from back then. Detail just comes naturally to the chosen few.
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Good job !!
Good thing you gave them to him , if you had given them to me I would of just used them !!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
One more example of the kind of folks we have on PA !!
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Wow Pat, someone as talented and generous as yourself. Sure are some generous folk in this community.
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Jealous for sure, that is one awesome box!
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Now that's mighty nice!
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You have to get up early in the morning to out trade Jackcrafty. ;)
David
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Yes Sir!
That is One Seriously Fine Goody Box...
Now I have the strange urge to drop by my Great Aunt's house to Liberate a few pieces of Blue
Glass from her Antique Blue Glass Collection...
She's already mad at me for something I had no part in...
Might as well give her proper reason.
>:D
-gus
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Wow what a haul, you are one luck man.
Grady
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There you go, Pat. Like everybody said, Patrick makes some cool looking arrows. Those glass points are really sweet. Let's sling them at some meat next week end. ;D
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Eddie, I'm bringing bows and arrows...and the .308! ;)
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Let me know how the arrowheads work, if you use 'em. :)
The dogwood is hard to keep straight. I worked on them 3 separate times and they still can't forget their original shapes. I think I still see some warpage that sneaked back in during shipping.... :-\ The wood is tough as nails, though. That batch of shoots you gave me contains all kinds of goodies. I'm cookin' up more arrows as we speak. ;D
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I wonder if they are silky dogwood or red osier dogwood. All the shoots I gave Patrick were well seasoned.
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Silky dogwood.
Pat, I'm wondering if my straightening process on dogwood would benefit from a much longer exposure to heat. I tend to heat quick and straighten quick. Whatcha think? Maybe I could "quench" the wood in cold water too.
I think that if we can conquer silky dogwood, then ANY wood can be conquered. ;D
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I've only made a few arrows with silky dogwood and they don't seem to stay straight like red osier and other hardwood shoots does. With all hardwood shoot shafts I straighten them first them I temper them by heating and rotating the shoot until I get good color then move down the shaft, heating and rotating until I reach the far end. Be careful because if there is any moisture in the shoot the steam will burn you as you reach the far end. Once tempered I lay them on a flat surface to cool completely, usually until the next day. For sourwood and red osier this works very well.
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Would Grooving the shaft help keep them straighter?
Not necessarily a Lightning Bolt Pattern.
More like Fullers, three of them spaced evenly around the shaft.
This method is used to strengthen and lend rigidity to other materials... Why not arrow shafts?
Similar to corrugated street metal roofing tin.
Perhaps pressed or hammered into the shaft instead of cut in.
Just thinking out loud... :)
-gus
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I finally got around to making a display. It is simply a poplar board stained with golden oak stain. I didn't want to distract from these treasures...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/lemonwoodALB006_zps72399ce4.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/lemonwoodALB006_zps72399ce4.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/lemonwoodALB007_zps37d7e09a.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/lemonwoodALB007_zps37d7e09a.jpg.html)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/lemonwoodALB008_zps37d0a9b6.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/lemonwoodALB008_zps37d0a9b6.jpg.html)
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Nice! Great idea. What did you use to hold down the items? I see you drilled holes in the board and then used wire to hold everything down?
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Patrick, I used thin floral wire.
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Cool. :)
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Really nice aroows! I like them alot.
How is the joining of the foreshaft and the arrow done?
I cannot quite make it out from the pictures. :)
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The foreshafts are not for these arrows. They would be more appropriate for cane arrows. This collection is a good example of the fine craftsmanship Patrick possesses, along with other things he makes beautifully.
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That is one sweet display! Beautiful work Patrick and well put together Pat 8)
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That turned out great pat
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I missed this Pat, YOU LUCKY DOG!!! Man, that's nice!
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oh babycakes.
those are sweeeet!