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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: BowSlayer on November 08, 2013, 07:27:20 pm

Title: jatoba?
Post by: BowSlayer on November 08, 2013, 07:27:20 pm
Has anyone made or seen a bow made from jatoba. Looks like a nice wood. Just want to know if it will make a bow as I might have access to some.  Thanks
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: AH on November 08, 2013, 09:16:00 pm
It can make a nice bow, but a lot of the time I get it chrysaling.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: toomanyknots on November 08, 2013, 09:36:04 pm
Same here, I had a 40# light weight flatbow chrysal on me for no reason.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: adb on November 08, 2013, 10:03:34 pm
I've had decent luck with jatoba. All ELBs of moderate weight. Here's one I did last spring... maple backed jatoba, 70" NTN, 48#@27". Minimal set.

The guy wanted a 'yew look-a-like' ELB. As close to yew as possible, without the cost.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2013, 12:08:11 am
  Good job ADB, thats a good design for Jatoba. Very fast wood but can chrysal very easily if you crowd tiller as i often do. I have made several R/d bows from it, great wood if carefully tillered but most of mine had at least minor chrsaling.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: BowSlayer on November 09, 2013, 04:17:48 am
Thanks for the response guys.  I might just give it a try. Ill watch out for the chrysals
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: BowSlayer on November 09, 2013, 05:13:26 am
oh yeah sweeeeet bow there Adb! what's the backing?
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: DarkSoul on November 09, 2013, 06:39:35 am
Read adb's post...
... maple backed jatoba, 70" NTN, 48#@27".

Run a search for jatoba. There is SOO much to be found! It's all right there at your finger tips. You just need to run a search for jatoba, instead of opening a new topic.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: adb on November 09, 2013, 08:51:25 am
  Good job ADB, thats a good design for Jatoba. Very fast wood but can chrysal very easily if you crowd tiller as i often do. I have made several R/d bows from it, great wood if carefully tillered but most of mine had at least minor chrsaling.

Thanks, Steve... appreciate the compliment. I made this ELB a bit wider and it has a flat belly... something I don't normally do with ELBs. It also has a small jatoba riser in the grip.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: kevinsmith5 on November 09, 2013, 09:45:53 am
Is that grip area thickened with a glued on piece or am I just seeing a grain line?
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: BowSlayer on November 09, 2013, 11:37:49 am
Ok kinda of topic butdoes anyone know any trustworthy sellers of laminated staves on eBay?
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: adb on November 09, 2013, 12:54:23 pm
I've never see a laminated stave on eBay.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: adb on November 09, 2013, 12:55:09 pm
Is that grip area thickened with a glued on piece or am I just seeing a grain line?

Yes. The guy didn't want ANY hand shock, so I built up the riser with another piece of jatoba and made the tiller a bit more elliptical than I normally do. Not bendy handle, like most ELBs.

I treat jatoba kinda like cherry... overbuilt a bit, wider and flatter, and very carefully tillered with lots of exercising between sessions and NO mistakes.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: Badger on November 09, 2013, 01:22:00 pm
  6 or 7 years ago I was at the flight shoots and had not really planned on shooting in a certain event. I had a d/r bamboo backed jatoba in the car about 65# but several chysals in the limbs. I decided to go ahead and shoot it and got a national record with it. It reminds me of black locust a lot the way it works.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: PatM on November 09, 2013, 01:26:46 pm
BowSlayer, you clearly aren't reading posts to the full. Stop just looking at pictures and read the text.
 I also sense that you are going to try to "contract out" your promise to build a bow for someone. If you can't actually deliver, just say so.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: keef on November 09, 2013, 02:22:08 pm
I've said this to you before Bowslayer, but I really think that you would be better off going out into the countryside with a saw and looking for a good elm, ash etc sapling about 3or4inches in diameter. You could start at the beginning and craft a really good finished bow with all the help on here.
Also if you see the name of a wood type on PA, and don't know what it is, you can easily use your phone or computer to look it up. I use;

http:///google.co.uk

Make sure you do this

Keef
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: BowSlayer on November 09, 2013, 02:34:35 pm
thank's Pat and Keef ill go out to the woods if this rain would only stop for 5 mins. lol. until then it's going to be bord bows. oh i got some jatoba but it was v. expensive as far as wood goes.
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: BowSlayer on November 09, 2013, 02:35:59 pm
BowSlayer, you clearly aren't reading posts to the full. Stop just looking at pictures and read the text.
 I also sense that you are going to try to "contract out" your promise to build a bow for someone. If you can't actually deliver, just say so.

after talking it over with him I decided to sell him my oak recuve once i add a leather handle. still wan't to try a ELB tho
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: adb on November 09, 2013, 07:57:01 pm
I'd be careful about selling anybody anything young man. How would you feel if someone got hurt? Don't you think you should maybe build a few more bows before you hang out your shingle and turn pro??
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: kevinsmith5 on November 10, 2013, 10:05:25 pm
I NEVER sell a high draw bow to anyone (over 50lb). Honestly if I thought they could be trusted to know how to care for it and use it I kinda think they'd know hoe to make it (or want to know how).
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: dbb on November 12, 2013, 02:23:12 pm
It seems i GIVE away all my bows  ;D
Much better  that way...no liability and hopefully more traditional Archers  >:D 8)
Title: Re: jatoba?
Post by: ionicmuffin on November 16, 2013, 12:00:45 am
i find that since im low on money if i make a bow from a board i need the amount that the board cost me to make up for losses, that helps to keep me in operation.