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Title: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: osage outlaw on October 10, 2013, 10:58:50 pm
I want to try rabbit hunting with my bow this year and I'm not sure what kind of arrows I should make.  Do you use blunts or regular field points with rabbits?  I'll be using cane/bamboo for the shafts.  I'll probably dye the fletching and back of the arrow a bright color, maybe even pink  :o  Laugh if you want.  I don't want to spend 20 minutes looking for each arrow I let loose.  We are loaded with rabbits, I had 5 in the yard the other morning.  They have learned to eat the food that gets spilled by my daughters 4-H rabbits.  They should be nice and plump by the time the season starts.  If anyone can post pics of some rabbit arrows I'd appreciate it.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: Danzn Bar on October 10, 2013, 11:04:18 pm
I'm interested this this one too!  Hedge done said I could try and nail a rabbit from his place. and I know he has a few  ::)
Keep the ideas coming....................
DBar
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: lostarrow on October 10, 2013, 11:19:52 pm
Blunts or judos . Field points are for target shooting. They will go right through and not cause the percussive trauma needed to kill them. I have screw on adapters on some of my hunting arrows, so I can switch from field points for practice to broadheads for deer, bunts with a judo style ring behind(can't remember the name) for small game ,to broadheads with the judo style ring behind for geese and turkey. If you are using a lighter bow (under 45lb) I would recommend foregoing the blunts and use a broadhead . most animals are tougher than you think. Lighter bows don't have enough wallop for blunt trauma  IMHO. Good luck!
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: osage outlaw on October 10, 2013, 11:24:54 pm
what about inserting the shaft of a 16 nail into the end of the cane and then using a bullet casing on the outside?  Would that work good enough as a blunt?  I'll be using a 50# bow.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: lostarrow on October 10, 2013, 11:26:59 pm
Should do. As long as it weighs enough to balance the arrow.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: Danzn Bar on October 10, 2013, 11:30:47 pm
I know where your going with that OO ......Sounds good to me toooo
DBar
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: lostarrow on October 10, 2013, 11:33:56 pm
The whole idea  of a blunt is to not go through  the game. Provide a flat surface that is big enough to stop penetration while being small enough to concentrate  the kenetic energy in the arrow. Not too big and not too small ;) 30 cal. has been the standard  for years. I think this came up last year and a lot of pics came up with people's varied solutions. Have you tried to "search "it?
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: lostarrow on October 10, 2013, 11:38:27 pm
"Small Game Points - Sticky" . Look it up in the search bar. All you need to know! lots of good points that wont make you cry if you loose them.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: Pat B on October 11, 2013, 12:59:28 am
One word...NUTTER! cheap and very effective.  Just screw a 3/8" nut on the tapered end of the shaft. I add superglue for giggles. You will get a little penetration from the taper point sticking out past the nut(super glue for extra strength) and good shock from the nut. You can also use a wing nut but a plain hex nut works well.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: H Rhodes on October 11, 2013, 01:59:23 am
One word...NUTTER! cheap and very effective.  Just screw a 3/8" nut on the tapered end of the shaft. I add superglue for giggles. You will get a little penetration from the taper point sticking out past the nut(super glue for extra strength) and good shock from the nut. You can also use a wing nut but a plain hex nut works well.

Yep!  X 2.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: bowtarist on October 11, 2013, 08:56:05 am
Clint I know you don't like to buy stuff much, but the HEX heads work great for squirrel and rabbit.  I think you're talking about a point like Ozzy was shooting the first weekend in Scottsburg. That should do for what you want.  I have made up some of those "nutters" too like Pat swears by. I wouldn't use too big of fletching for rabbit arrows since you will be shooting down you won't need to slow the arrow like you do when shooting up.   If the dogs in my area didn't kill most of the rabbits I'd be doing the same.  HAve fun Buddy, dp
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: TRACY on October 11, 2013, 09:24:14 am
what about inserting the shaft of a 16 nail into the end of the cane and then using a bullet casing on the outside?  Would that work good enough as a blunt?  I'll be using a 50# bow.

Nock the primer out of the shell and slide it over the duplex. I found some big duplex nails this summer that would work great for this. Fletching, use full size /flu flu to slow down after 30 yards or so.
I've used Ace hex heads and love them if you're trying commercially made items along with the judos.

I love hunting small with the bow and have enjoyed shooting at squirrels the last few days in and out of the stand.

Tracy
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: mullet on October 11, 2013, 12:05:46 pm
Small Game Points, Stickied just above this thread. ::)
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 11, 2013, 01:07:01 pm
I just use standard field tips myself. Sometimes I have to "extinguish" the game, but that's part of hunting small game with a bow I guess.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: osage outlaw on October 11, 2013, 03:49:29 pm
Thanks guys.  I forgot about the small game sticky thread.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: twisted hickory on October 11, 2013, 09:50:55 pm
Glue on blunts with white feathers. I prefer flu flu due to large white fletching and if they do richoet they won't go far. Plus ya can use them for shooting tree rats out of trees. My small game quiver is 7 reg fletch and 7 flu flu. They work great.
Greg
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: FAW on October 12, 2013, 08:31:35 am
I'm using blunted broadheads, just the tips knocked off - helps me with overall consistency of the arrows'  flight regardless what I am hunting. In other words, the flight of the blunted broadhead works the same as a sharp tipped one.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: CherokeeKC on October 13, 2013, 10:23:55 pm
Depends on the habitat your shooting them in.  If you dont want them to run and shooting in thick briars you want something that wont catch on briars and go through them to pin them to ground.  If fairly open ground then blunts should be fine.  Just my opinion. :)
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: Davesea on October 17, 2013, 05:34:21 pm
I have been meaning to try a bowfishing arrow point, so they don't get away.
(http://www.cajunbowfishing.com/sites/www.cajunbowfishing.com/files/abf4700_weestinger.png)
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: KrisDelger on October 18, 2013, 03:01:39 am
Problem with the bowfishing point is that it'll really mess up the meat, hide, etc and that's just no bueno. (Trust me I made that mistake on a chukar; he ended up as food for my redtail) Personally for homemade small game heads I like to use .38 special brass that's been half filled with melted lead (I know not very environmentally friendly) then glued onto the shaft; they usually do a fair amount of percussive damage and will drop a rabbit 8 times out of 10. Another idea I've been messing with is using a bodkin style tip with a mushroom shaped tip as apposed to a sharp needle, they're iffy so far (Don't fly too well and they're really heavy)
If you want to spend some money you could always use glue on Judo blunts, or use rubber blunt tips with a spiraled wire to catch brush. I'll try to post picks of what I'm talking about  :o
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: osage outlaw on October 18, 2013, 10:22:30 pm
I found some 38 shells and had wondered about putting a little lead in them.  I think I'll give that a try.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Rabbit Arrows?
Post by: KrisDelger on October 29, 2013, 04:38:14 am
I found some 38 shells and had wondered about putting a little lead in them.  I think I'll give that a try.  Thanks.
The first time I used lead fishing weight melted and then poured into the casing. The latest I've used bullet casting lead. It'll make then rather heavy so just mess with it until it's the weight you want.