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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:38:33 pm

Title: Winged Elm & plenty of pics.
Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:38:33 pm
Ok here's the winged elm I got at last years classic.61.5"NTN molly about a 60/40 ratio.15.5" working limbs with 11.5"stiff non working levers.Tillered to 29.5"@54# or 51#@28".Pulls nice and even from the get go and smooth.Black highlights of a missouri rat snake and black horn & silk wraps.The lip of a fade ring of one limb lifted just slightly.No crack or anything. That's the reason for the sinew and silk wraps on the fades.It's held up good to over 300 shots so far.Finished tillering in at 17.45 oz.18.25 oz. after horn palm plate,snake skin,wraps,& finish.Unbraces with 5/8" reflex.After 2 hours it settles to 1and1/4".Shoots where I look consistently and is a joy to shoot.
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Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:41:19 pm
belly
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Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:42:12 pm
tips
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Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:42:55 pm
more tips
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Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:43:47 pm
at rest
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Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:44:29 pm
brace
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Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:45:48 pm
handle
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Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:46:48 pm
money shot
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Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:48:45 pm
Here's one for WB99.One of a few I have around and did'nt post because I did'nt have a digital camera yet.
Title: Re: Winged Elm & plenty of pics.
Post by: BowEd on September 08, 2013, 08:51:17 pm
Guess I should mention the handle has a 1/4" deflex to it.It had that from the get go in the stave.I see my sizer cut off some of the tips of my pictures after I rotated them.Bummer.
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Post by: tallpine on September 08, 2013, 11:18:37 pm
Nice work Beadman, love them skinny tip Mollys
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Post by: BowEd on September 09, 2013, 01:46:35 am
Yes the tips are about as narrow as I care to make em.3/8" wide.With no grooves on the side buffered fast flight can handle that but I would'nt reccomend it for fiber,rawhide,or gut strings.
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Post by: Pappy on September 09, 2013, 08:04:30 am
Very nice bow,i have made a few winged Elm,it is some sweet wood and tough as nails. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: BowEd on September 09, 2013, 08:24:17 am
Yes Pappy.I see your up and atem already.....LOL.It is the densest elm I've ever fooled with.Close to some hickory around here.I imagine it can take a number of different stressful designs.Takes a heat treatment very well although it lost at least half of it while tillering.Aligning my tips took a couple of afternoons[about three tries per tip] to get close to dead nuts in line.I just could'nt get lucky with this one for some reason.Stubborn for a side ways bend you know.
This is gonna sound silly but I did a recheck on the draw length on my tillering board.[Put a yard stick to it].Seems I've been tillering all of my bows to 29 1/4" to 29 1/2" instead of 28".About the depth of a handle you know.That is'nt a bad practice to do though.Guess that's ok too if they don't blow.....LOL.
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Post by: steve b. on September 09, 2013, 09:53:56 am
That's a beauty.  Nice job.
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Post by: BowEd on September 09, 2013, 09:32:36 pm
Thanks steve b.I'd like to get a couple more staves of it.Maybe next years classic.The working limbs are 30 to 31 inches long and I tillered it to 29.5".Almost even steven...Sorry for the pun......LOL.
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Post by: BowEd on September 09, 2013, 09:35:22 pm
THAT"S the name of this bow.....EVEN STEVEN ALMOST......LOL.
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Post by: blackhawk on September 10, 2013, 08:53:52 am
Turned out nice Ed..should be a pleasant sweet shooter....and looks like the narrowest levers/tips you've done yet....but ya still could take more off ;)  :laugh: but not much ;)
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Post by: koan on September 10, 2013, 09:13:49 am
Thats a sweet one right there. I aint made a Molly yet but i have shot a couple and it makes my head hurt tryin to understand why they shoot so great  :laugh:... Brian
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Post by: raghorns on September 10, 2013, 09:18:19 am
That's a beauty...hope it comes to the Classic with you next year...would love to see it.

Lyle
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Post by: BowEd on September 10, 2013, 09:58:45 am
Yea I agree blackhawk but would it make that much diff in performance really?I realize these things are done in little bits though.Anyway.It's scary enough for me to stand behind and pull.
raghorns....I plan on it.Look for a teepee and we'll bull^%* a while.
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Post by: blackhawk on September 10, 2013, 11:54:22 am
Yeah Ed...you know I'm just kidding around ...that little bit won't make a difference when there's so many other variables and larger factors at play....UNLESS your perfect and do everything perfect and make THE perfect bow.....now who does that..NOBODY......  :laugh:
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Post by: BowEd on September 10, 2013, 12:09:10 pm
I'll do better with a hedge molly Chris.I do have a hickory or two that is at least as narrow though that I never posted.Must have 30 bows here I never posted because I did'nt have that confounded digital camera yet.My rack of shame tells me I'm not perfect over here.Course that might disappear once winter comes around and they get chucked into the wood stove......LOL.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 10, 2013, 12:18:46 pm
Good looking unbraced profile Ed. Impressive for a shorter bow.
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Post by: BowEd on September 10, 2013, 12:32:53 pm
tillered 29.5" is what impressed me PD.
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Post by: missilemaster on September 10, 2013, 02:25:34 pm
Great tiller on her!
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Post by: BowEd on September 10, 2013, 05:17:32 pm
Thanks Cody.....How them caliper fingers doin?
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Post by: Dvshunter on September 10, 2013, 06:41:43 pm
Great looking bow ed. I bet it shoots as well as your other do too. Excellent work as usual.
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Post by: Bryce on September 10, 2013, 08:22:12 pm
Oh yeah I'm like'n that!
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Post by: BowEd on September 11, 2013, 01:52:39 am
DVS & Bryce.....Thanks.A little change of pace for me....no sinew...LOL.Somehow elm has a way of being smooth.Not as much reflex and can get it strung with the push pull method this time if I got to.I've gotten used to using my old primitive stringer though and always keep it in my pocket.