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Title: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 09, 2013, 06:49:56 pm
As the title says....a molly curve made from a red oak board....boy am I gonna get an earful for posting a bent piece of house trim  ::) ...its 67" ntn...57@27"...24 ounces mass weight...osage tip overlays(just had to put some real wood on it)...stitched black leather grip....its smooth as silk to draw,and totally rips a hardcore arrow...not to toot my own horn but I have never shot such a fast board bow before,and ive seen and shot lots of them by lots of other folks and myself included...it fricken hammers...im impressed,and I don't say that often...and I hate to say it and admit it,but I fell in love with a board  :-*  :-[  :-[  :-[  :-[  :-[ this bows been done for over a month...and I was gonna send this as a trade bow,but I just couldn't send a friggin board and ruin my reputation...oh wait..too late  :laugh:

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_1023.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/100_1023.jpg.html)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_1024.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/100_1024.jpg.html)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_1030.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/100_1030.jpg.html)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_1027.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/100_1027.jpg.html)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_1017.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/100_1017.jpg.html)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_1032.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/100_1032.jpg.html)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/100_1038.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/100_1038.jpg.html)

thanks for looking  :)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: CORIUS on July 09, 2013, 06:55:12 pm
That bow is marvelous!!!!!! Great color combo!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: JLoranger on July 09, 2013, 06:55:23 pm
Beautiful work as always Blackhawk. With the size of those tip I am not suprised it's fast, those things are much more narrow than I have ever dared...
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Weylin on July 09, 2013, 06:56:17 pm
That's a sweet looking piece of lumber! Nice work. It goes to show that a good stain and finish can make a board look sharp.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: lesken2011 on July 09, 2013, 07:14:40 pm
Mighty sweet, Chris. Uhh, I thought boards came from trees, too!?! ???
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: bubby on July 09, 2013, 07:54:18 pm
I wont hold this against ya blackbird, you cant eat steak every night, every once in a while ya got to eat chicken :laugh:, seriously nice bow, bub
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Ed Brooks on July 09, 2013, 07:58:26 pm
Nice Bow. Ed
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: rps3 on July 09, 2013, 07:59:11 pm
Sounds and looks like a great bow. Is it how I am looking at it, or are those levers bending some?
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: BOWMAN53 on July 09, 2013, 08:22:09 pm
Lets put two and two together, i usually make board dows and i havent gotten my trade bow yet, and to add a third, itsmy draw length! Thats coming my way, i know it lol.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Danzn Bar on July 09, 2013, 08:31:08 pm
Great job Chris, looks like it would spit arrow.  Love those tips, next bow I do I'm going to try to thin them up some,  Can you offer any tips to help my learning curve?
Thanks
DBar
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: adb on July 09, 2013, 08:44:13 pm
WTF, Chris!!! A board bow, and an oak board bow!!?? I'm going to have to cry myself to sleep tonight... thanks.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: osage outlaw on July 09, 2013, 08:47:02 pm
Since you are a board bow guy now why don't you make me a deal on your stave stash  ;D


Seriously though, that is about the nicest "bored" bow I have ever seen.  Those tips are crazy thin.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Adam on July 09, 2013, 08:47:50 pm
Heck, you got some Osage worked in, I don't think your reputation will suffer. ;). That looks like a mighty fine shooter for sure!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: ssgtchad on July 09, 2013, 08:53:22 pm
Hell just froze over >:D >:D :o Very nice bow sir. By the way if you need a board bow intervention I'll take it off your hands.  >:D :o 8)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Badly Bent on July 09, 2013, 09:01:25 pm
Looks so much better as a bow than it would have as door casing. You did the right thing by getting that wood out of the house. Smooth looking bow Chris, I like that baby.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: SLIMBOB on July 09, 2013, 09:35:13 pm
Some board bows never quit looking like a board.  Not here.  One of the sweetest looking board bows I've seen.  Spot on tiller, cool curves and colors.  Nice work. 
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 09, 2013, 09:41:49 pm
Haha...thanks for all the ribbing guys... :laugh:

Bob it looks like they are just slightly bending...perfect ;)

Guess youll just have to wait n see bowman53  ::)

Well danzn bar...I can't cut off these tips and send em to ya... ;D ...do you remember seeing my bows at Dave's and the classic? With overlays you can go real narrow...most my lever bows are at least 3/4 wide at the end of the fade,and a half inch wide(I use digital caliper)6" from the nocks,and anywhere from .250"-290" wide at the string groove...even with flat bow style tips you can still make the tips as narrow as I do at the string groove ...which will also force you to narrow the last ~8" to make a smooth transition,and where you really want to remove dead material there...you really dont need a lot out there where it doesn't bend much,even in a normal style bow

And thanks for all the serious comments everybody ;)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: twisted hickory on July 09, 2013, 09:42:41 pm
Black hawk,
 Nice work as usual. Like the color combo.
If ya don't mind what is the width and thickness of the tips? Scary small but I bet it really chucks an arrow.
Thanks,
Greg
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Marc St Louis on July 09, 2013, 09:47:26 pm
You did that board proud.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Carson (CMB) on July 09, 2013, 09:56:18 pm
It still looks like a board.   But a beautiful board it is. 
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Pat B on July 09, 2013, 11:27:55 pm
Well done Chris. I know how much of a sacrifice it was for you to build a , dare I say, red oak board bow. I hope the overlays are enough to appease the osage gods.  ???
  Being that you wouldn't dare use this bow as your trade bow I will volenteer to keep your secret safe and your reputation sound. You've got my address.  ;D
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Trapper Rob on July 09, 2013, 11:30:25 pm
Nice bow Chris.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: DLH on July 09, 2013, 11:38:58 pm
Thats a sweet looking bow Chris. How long does it take you to crank out a board bow any quicker than a stave?
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: paulsemp on July 10, 2013, 12:01:44 am
Come on boardhawk and send it my way! I won't hold it against you >:D
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: steve b. on July 10, 2013, 12:13:46 am
amazing !
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: k-hat on July 10, 2013, 12:15:17 am
Despite the odds i knew when i read the "molly curve" part in the subject that somehow it had to be Blackhawk :o, board or not!  The pig flying past my window couldn't distract me from that beautiful bender ya got there.  Ima hafta put a "molly curve" on my list of soon-to-make bows!  Well done sir 8)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Matt Heppe on July 10, 2013, 12:23:28 am
That is a great looking bow. Love it!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Cameroo on July 10, 2013, 12:42:02 am
Yikes, that's got to hurt to stoop so low  >:D   What is seen cannot be unseen! ha ha 

Soon you'll be shaving tapered lams, and putting together a hot box (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

Beautiful bow though.  You should send some shafts through a chrony and see how she does!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: ionicmuffin on July 10, 2013, 03:52:52 am
now you've done it! thats it! sigh, well its so amazing that i just am going to have to make one before i die...
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Holten101 on July 10, 2013, 04:35:37 am
Way to liberate a "violated" piece of wood....you should get a medal for that bow:-)

You really are pushing the limits on this design....I appreciate your work alot!

Cheers
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: danny f on July 10, 2013, 05:04:02 am
that is a beautiful bow, you can send it my way if you want :). well done.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 10, 2013, 07:41:26 am
Lol guys... :laugh:  my ribs are getting sore from all the poking  ;D

Twisted hickory...read my reply to danzn bar in the post right before yours...as far as thickness goes each one is different...with everything other than yew I'll start my lever dimensions at ~3/4"x3/4" until I've tillered it out and ready to start shooting...then I'll know just how much of the thickness I can reduce,and will have a lil fudge room for any minor string tracking adjustments...its trial n error reducing them down until they're at there limits(which I always do)..;)

Dan..it takes about half the time to whip out a board bow versus a chased ring stave,and even less with a real gnarly piece of wood....boards are a cake walk...snap some straight lines n cut it out,which is easy when all sides are square to each other

And thanks again to everyone for the "REAL" comments ;D .... OK...and the jokes too..they make me laugh  :laugh:
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Josh B on July 10, 2013, 09:16:51 am
Nicely done Chris!  I was wondering when you were gonna quit sandbagging and show that badboy off.  As far as I'm concerned, there's no shame in making board bows.  Especially not that one!  Josh
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 10, 2013, 09:32:11 am
What a waste..........that chunk would have fit perfectly behind my couch where Im missing a piece.......you shoulda' said you needed some bow wood, you know full well I would have sent a stick to you.


Sweet trim board bow though!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: IdahoMatt on July 10, 2013, 10:29:05 am
That's a beauty no matter what kind of wood or the state that the wood was in before it was a bow.  It's a bow now and some trees were just meant to be bows.  Sorry about the bruised pride with the trim piece >:D
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Christian Soldier on July 10, 2013, 11:47:11 am
Not quite as much romanticism behind a board but that one still looks dang good! Those are definitely some of the most narrow tips I've seen on a board bow and the tiller is spot on.

Great job man!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: bushboy on July 10, 2013, 11:55:32 am
That a beaut,super skinny levers,and flexing at full draw!wow!I like how you push the design envelope on all your bows!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Rafael on July 10, 2013, 11:59:26 am
I like this bow ! Great work! Your bow is akin to ancient Kitan horbow from central Asia
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Will H on July 10, 2013, 12:01:11 pm
Nice one Chris!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: raghorns on July 10, 2013, 12:29:21 pm
I can just imagine all the lines of guys fighting over the straight grain boards at the red oak sections in the Home Improvement stores.

Great work, Chris!

Lyle
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: autologus on July 10, 2013, 12:33:28 pm
Looks great, and at 57# should be quite powerful.  That would be a chore for me to shoot.

Grady


Edit for misspelling my name. lol. :laugh:
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: hedgeapple on July 10, 2013, 01:43:40 pm
Man, I head out west for a week and look what I come home too--another awesome Blackhawk bow.  ;)

Chris, I understand your dilemma.  When I was building a red oak board bow for that trade, I kept cussing it saying I'd never build another one.  Then I started shooting it in.  I was pretty darn sweet.  So, I still check out the red oak boards every time I'm in home improvement store.

Nicely done, my friend.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Shiloh on July 10, 2013, 02:27:56 pm
I won't lie; I've never been a fan of the molly bows. For some reason they always just looked...off, at least to me.

This one suddenly makes me want to build a molly.  ;D Great job!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: ionicmuffin on July 10, 2013, 05:35:31 pm
Did i mention that that bow looks to be made of trash wood?
better send it to me for proper disposal.  ;)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 10, 2013, 08:24:16 pm
Thanks josh...yeah...took me long enough to post this one and I knew you were waiting to see it all finished up and walking down the runway ;)

Hey pearly...I'm all outta wood...can ya send me stick please?... how bout that piece of yes ya got from Marty ;)  ;D

No bruised pride here Idaho Matt ;)

Dave..I hate to say it but I do the same anytime I'm in one of those stores...maybe one in ten times I'll find a board suitable...I'm reeeeeal picky about my choice in boards..not only do they have to have straight grain,but they need to be big ringed dense wood...I've noticed a difference between the two..seems like the thin ringed red oak boards are more brittle and inferior...

Shiloh I hope this does inspire ya to build a molly :D

Nice try muffin...but i think I'm keeping this one....for now

And thanks to everyone else for commenting..I do appreciate  it ;D

Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: ionicmuffin on July 10, 2013, 10:58:43 pm
You sure? Ill cut you a sweet deal! How about this? You pay for shipping and ill dispose of it right proper! Sounds pretty good to me!           









All in good fun ;D
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Ken S on July 10, 2013, 11:18:34 pm
very nice! tiller is perfect on that one.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: hedgeapple on July 11, 2013, 01:03:09 am
Chris, what's your width at the fades?
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 11, 2013, 08:40:52 am
You sure? Ill cut you a sweet deal! How about this? You pay for shipping and ill dispose of it right proper! Sounds pretty good to me!           









All in good fun ;D

Somebody really wants this piece of bent trim  ::)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 11, 2013, 08:43:31 am
Chris, what's your width at the fades?

Off the top of my head I think its just under 2 1/2" wide out of the handle...and a 1 1/4" wide at the lever fade
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: MWirwicki on July 11, 2013, 08:50:34 am
Way to go on a Molly curve.  Good on ya, Chris. 
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Pappy on July 11, 2013, 10:33:49 am
Very nice job,never made a board bow but that[almost] makes me want to try,maybe I can shoot it at ElmHall and that will push me over the edge. ;) ;D ;D
   Pappy
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: adb on July 11, 2013, 10:51:20 am
Pappy... you've never made a board bow? Ever? WTF?? You should come to the dark side!! ;)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 11, 2013, 10:53:40 am
Thanks matt

Thanks pappy....I'll bring it and you can judge for your self  8)  I'd love to see you build a board bow  ;D

Lol adb... :laugh:
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: missilemaster on July 11, 2013, 09:37:04 pm
You know Chris, your wife is going to get mad at you if you keep tearing the trim off your walls! ;D Seriously though, great looking bow.....rd.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Trapper Rob on July 11, 2013, 10:56:08 pm
Chris are you going to enter this one in bow of the month contest. It is a sweet looking bow next time we meet bring it along I want to see it in person & shoot it.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: hunterbob on July 12, 2013, 12:14:28 am
I got to check this one out tonight at Chris's house. Sweeeeet . He could make a sweet bow out of anything.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 12, 2013, 07:55:15 am
Thanks Cody..the only thing the wife gets mad about is all the wood in and around the house,n then I come home with more n more...lol  ;D

Thanks rob...I prob won't enter a bent piece of trim... ::)

Thanks Bob...not to sure about that claim  ::)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Calamitus on July 25, 2013, 09:33:36 am
I love this board bow, now I gotta try one for myself. Just one question: How thick are the working limbs? Thanks!
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: mikekeswick on July 25, 2013, 09:44:14 am
Nice bow.
Looks like it will shoot a flat 'un  8)
I'd be interested to know what the chrony says if you've got one.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: BowEd on July 25, 2013, 05:22:45 pm
Well you were saying you were working on a molly recurve.Figured it'd be an osage though.Thought you just looked in the woods for bows.....LOL.Good eye on the grain selection.Very sweet full draw profile pic.Like the finish work too,and your dog ear marked thin tip work.Sweeeeet.Does it shoot as nice as your long Mo Jam yew?The only time I've fooled with board bows it has a bamboo back.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Arrowind on July 26, 2013, 12:38:06 am
I had the scouts over making bows quite a while ago.   I took one of the other adult leaders out back to shoot one.  I pulled it back and shot it.  You should have seen his face.  :o  He was amazed.  He just kept looking at it in disbelief.  Then he said "WOW that's just like....that's, well...it's just like..."  I interupted him and said "A real bow?" He looked at me with what I can only describe as "shocking realization" and said.  "YEAH!....like a REAL BOW."   I said that's because it is.   He just kept shaking his head.  He couldn't figure out how you could make a "REAL BOW" from an ordinary piece of wood.

THAT my friend is a REAL BOW.   LOVE IT!  And to think you made it from an ordinary piece of wood....that was cut to look like a board.  YOU GOT SKILLS.

When I first saw it I thought. "you gotta be kidding me."  RED OAK? MOLLY? RECURVE???!!!??!!!  DAAAAAAANG. 

That's awesome dude.
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: blackhawk on July 26, 2013, 07:41:02 am
Thanks guys :)

Calamitous I don't know exact thickness of the limbs...I think its close to just under a half inch out of the fades and just over 3/8" at the thinnest point before the levers...and the levers are about 5/8" thick

Hey Ed...what's your definition of "shoot as nice"...lol...the yew is a hair slower(lower poundage bow tho)but its a hair more stable and accurate...but I can't test them side by side anymore because I gave the yew away to an ole friend two days ago,and its halfway to Seattle right now ;)

Cool story arrowind...I love those stories and when that happens ;)
Title: Re: Red Oak Board Molly Curve
Post by: Calamitus on July 26, 2013, 10:00:41 am
Thanks Blackhawk, that's the info I needed.