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Title: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Otoe Bow on November 20, 2007, 10:05:36 pm
Does anyone know of a good place to get some free access rocks suitable for knapping (along cuts in highways, along rivers, lakes, etc) here in Oklahoma?   

I've been watching the YouTube videos and just received my first how-to book on the subject and now I need some rocks.

Thanks in advance

Otoe



Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Calendargirl on November 20, 2007, 11:07:25 pm
Well until I read your full post I would have referred you to Cowboy and the others who think the best place for "nappin" is the "john"  :o
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: DanaM on November 21, 2007, 06:18:47 am
Marie I kike to nap at work :o
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: gene roberts on November 21, 2007, 11:12:55 am
Couldnt knappin on the" john" get dangerous.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Otoe Bow on November 22, 2007, 11:53:05 am
 ::)  Ok, ok, KNAPPING Rocks.  Not "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" rocks. 

Otoe
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: cowboy on December 05, 2007, 08:45:34 pm
Ha, ha, knappin in the john - I'm in a hotel right now, don't give me any idea's ;D. Otoe, man I've checked out several leads in OK for rocks but they were all dry. That doesn't mean it's not there, just that I don't know where to look - KS too but the same story. Their are those that have honey holes up there but won't even tell their moma's - if ya need some for starters send me a PM.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Sidewinder on December 05, 2007, 11:34:21 pm
I wonder if anyone has every sleep knapped. You know just like sleep walking only sleep knapping. I guess if they did then they would have been nap knapping.  Lol   Danny
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on December 06, 2007, 12:08:21 am
        Danny............Dude ya have TOO MUCH time on yer hands ! ;D....bob
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: donrhudy on April 06, 2008, 01:13:16 am
Mike, if you still care, try around Waynoka.

Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Otoe Bow on April 06, 2008, 01:50:54 am
I'm always on the look out.  Thanks for the info.

Mike
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: carpenter374 on April 06, 2008, 03:22:14 pm
otoe, im in the same boat your in. i live out west of okc about 80 mi. ive done a considerable amount of researching on it. kay county seems to have a lot of flint that is workable. there's a type of chert called 'frisco chert' that is from south east of okc. keokuk flint is in oklahoma but i have yet to find out where. a lot of knappers just drive to north central texas to get the high grade, highly workable edwards chert. its located in an area roughly from fort worth to fredricksburg and east as far as austin. if you check e-bay theres rock to be had cheap there but no way to assure quality. it seems that workability can differ considerably even from cobble to cobble so youre probably better testing the rock yourself as you gather it. hope this helps.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Otoe Bow on April 07, 2008, 02:09:45 am
Thanks Carpenter.  I find myself looking in creeks and road cuts every where I drive.  Plus I carry my boppers and tool kit with me just about every time I take a road trip, just in case there's rocks in them thar hills.   ;D

Mike. 
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: cowboy on April 08, 2008, 10:05:54 pm
Sound like me Mike :D. Always on the lookout for trees, arras, rocks - I need to pay more attention to the road ;D..
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: El Destructo on April 08, 2008, 10:09:40 pm
i live out west of okc about 80 mi.

Then you need to see if you can find a place along the Canadian River Bed that you can hunt...there should be all kinds of Frisco and Keokuk Flint and Alibates too...if you are lucky.....thats where I find mine here in the Panhandle....is along the Canadian River Breaks....
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: carpenter374 on April 08, 2008, 11:35:33 pm
north canadian or south canadian?
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: El Destructo on April 09, 2008, 02:13:57 am
north canadian or south canadian?

I would be guessing....but I think the North Canadian is the part running through Hutchison County and through to Oklahoma...I find all of my Flint in the Breaks...Canyons caused by the Canadian over the millennium...I get all kinds of Alibates mostly
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: xin on April 09, 2008, 02:25:48 am
       
there are deposits  of novaculite in southeastern OK , but I 'm not sure exactly where.   could be east of the Antlers area.












Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: xin on April 09, 2008, 02:40:15 am
;you could save yourself some time and money if you ordered  some novacullite (heat treated) from Dan' Whetstone.  Good heat treated novaculite is beautiful and a lot easier to knap than Edwards Plateau chert.  The idea of finding your own rock and heat treating it yourself haas a lot of fantasy appeal, but unless you have a job and truck that takes you areas with plentiful chert that can be picked up without being shot and a place to heat treat it with plentiful cheap fuel, its just a lot cheaper and easier to buy it.  Also ;you're knapping and not wasting all your time looking for something to knap.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Otoe Bow on April 09, 2008, 03:24:41 pm
Thanks xin, I'll give them a shot. I hear treated navaculite knapps like "butter".  I like looking for the stuff too.  It's kind of like hunting for meat vs. buying it at the grocery store.   ;D

Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: El Destructo on April 10, 2008, 12:05:40 am
Thats what I'm talking about Mike....searching for it is half the fun....and good excercise for my Old Bones too!!
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: xin on April 10, 2008, 02:13:55 am
Nothing wrong with hunting for your own stuff, I do it myself; however I like to always have a supply of good knappable material on hand to turn to gravel or points.  If you want some Edwwards Plateau chert, go to Campwood, Tx , take highway 55 South toward Uvalde.  The highway crosses  the Nueces River about 5 or 6 miles south of Campwood.  You can pull off the highway and park under the bridge where you can load your car or truck down with all the chert you want.  A lot  of it is some of the nicest rootbeer you've ever seen.  Various other colors also occur.  Good luck and have fun.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: cowboy on April 10, 2008, 10:42:03 am
That sounds interesting xin. I have driven far and wide all over that country but have never traveled hwy 55. Looks like that bridge is actually in Edwards county too. May be the same stuff I generally pick up - think next time I'm in the neighborhood I'll check it out :).
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: xin on April 10, 2008, 06:45:24 pm
Cowboy:  You can't go wrong.  Been picking up stuff there for years.  The locals fish and swim there, so you don't have to worry about getting run off or run in for trespassing.  It's also nice to be able to park close to where you are gathering so you don't have far to carry a 5 gallon bucket of chert.  You are a phenomenal knapper!!!
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: cowboy on April 10, 2008, 06:50:28 pm
Thanks xin. I started out picking up rocks in the Leon creek inside San Antonio city limits - always had a funny feeling about being down there like somebody was watchin me or somthing. Then after awhile I found the flint feilds SW of town, lot more relaxed out there (LaCoste). You aught to check that out some time.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Otoe Bow on April 11, 2008, 12:22:15 am
Thanks for the tips guys.  I've cut and pasted the directions into my files for future treasure hunting purposes.   8). 

Mike
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: carpenter374 on April 11, 2008, 12:41:46 am
hey otoe, i just found out that the real name for keokuk is peoria chert. im  gonna have to go look it up and see if i can find where its located. i saw some pics of that kay county and it looks like some nice rock.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: Otoe Bow on April 11, 2008, 01:06:15 am
Hmmmmm Peoria ehhhhh?.  I wonder if that has anything to do with Peoria, like the street in Tulsa? 

From my, "I don't know beans about knapping rock" point of view, the Kay County seems to be pretty good stuff.   ::)

Mike
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: carpenter374 on April 11, 2008, 02:17:18 am
just looked up the peoria chert aka 'keokuk'. its in several chert formatios from southeast kansas to the ouachita mountains in southeast ok. most concentrated in east central oklahoma and near miami, oklahoma. theres supposed to be a big quarry near peoria, ok.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: carpenter374 on April 11, 2008, 03:30:40 am
one more thing, i just found out about some alibates deposits about 15 miles southeast of me so im gonna check that out this weekend.
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: El Destructo on April 11, 2008, 03:32:07 am
one more thing, i just found out about some alibates deposits about 15 miles southeast of me so im gonna check that out this weekend.

Knew ther had to be some close....good luck...it is some Pretty Rock....
Title: Re: Good place for "nappin" rocks in Oklahoma
Post by: cowboy on April 11, 2008, 10:45:15 am
Pictures when ya find a load guys - I love eyeballing raw materials ;D.