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Title: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: fisher2 on May 09, 2013, 12:08:54 am
so i bought a cheap "finish it yourself" bow off ebay at 122# and the guy said due to weight it has to be a bend through design he sent me a full draw pic( well not drawn but pulled with a winch to 28") is this guy right or can i glue on a solid riser and make it fit my hand better and add a floppy rest to it heres the pic of it he sent me after the winch pic (http://i.imgur.com/mmqCeI1.jpg)

it looks like it has a slightly thicker handle and doesnt have an extreme bend to it anyway sooo ,would the handle just pop off given the bend or can i manage, will it raise poundage if i manage to get a handle glued?
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: TacticalFate on May 09, 2013, 12:14:51 am
Outer third of the limbs are not bending at all...If this is a warbow, it's not tillered too well, comparing it to the beauties on the warbow forum...definitely not bending full compass. If it's at 122# right now, it's gonna be less once you're done fixing the tiller.
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: fisher2 on May 09, 2013, 12:26:19 am
it looks like its set up as a flat bow but bend through right now so thats why i was wondering if i should glue on a riser and just make a flatbow lol
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: TacticalFate on May 09, 2013, 12:28:29 am
Even for a flatbow, the outer third needs work. How long is it?
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: fisher2 on May 09, 2013, 12:32:53 am
72"
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: TacticalFate on May 09, 2013, 12:39:27 am
See what weight it falls in at once you've fixed the tiller, and decide from there, but you should wait for those more experienced with heavy bows to chime in.
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: fisher2 on May 09, 2013, 12:47:20 am
i dont think this pic is full draw it looks like it was done with longstring its not bending as much as i would expect at 28"
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: adb on May 09, 2013, 01:19:40 am
"cheap bow off ebay"... looks like you got what you paid for!!  :o
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: steve b. on May 09, 2013, 01:27:11 am
Do you want the draw weight that high?  If so then you might be able to stiffen the handle and tiller it properly.
If you want to reduce the draw weight to something reasonable then you could probably do whatever you want with that much bow.
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: fisher2 on May 09, 2013, 01:43:50 am
i do want the bow 100#+ tiller doesnt matter much to me as its mostly a strength training bow for my 100# bamabow i mean i paid like 110$ for it haha so i wasnt expecting anything but if i can get a riser on it i can mold it like the bama's grip
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: TatankaOhitika on May 09, 2013, 01:48:29 am
Holy moses . Why did Chuck Norris give you his bow ?

Regardless a bend through the handle is a no brainer if you want a decent draw length of maximum efficiency out of it , and you don't want your eyeball becoming a cabob from broken bow splinters .
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on May 09, 2013, 02:40:08 am
yea that bow needs to get tillered properly, it also most likely took a bunch of follow near the handle area since he has been pulling it like that. you can glue on a riser, heat treat the limbs and retiller it down to a suitable weight for you. If you want this thing pulling 120, good luck.
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: fisher2 on May 09, 2013, 02:42:45 am
yeah i want it at 120# just to build muscle, due to length and the fact its 120# ill likely never do serious shooting with it maybe a few shots just to say i've shot up to 120# before. i pass chuck norris's arrows all the time on the road, look alot like telephone poles
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: Del the cat on May 09, 2013, 03:58:40 am
Hands up those who would like to know what wood its?
I agree with everything thats been said.
My advice is use it to practice tillering.
Better to say:-
"I drawn a well tillered 100# bow"  (20# should be plenty to sort the tiller)
Than I've drawn a crap 120# bow that chrysalled or smacked you on the head.
These is no point in a bow that isn't going to get shot...
The well tillered 100# will shoot better than the 120#
Better to get learnin' than muscle...
Del
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: DarkSoul on May 09, 2013, 05:35:46 am
(http://nudgeblogt.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/hands-up.jpg)

I'm guessing it's hickory. Did I win an award now?
Did you pay $110 for that stick? Wow, that's a lot of money. You could have bought five very decent boards for that same amount of money.
Anyway, since you already have it now...
Don't glue on a stiff riser. Very likely it will pop off. Instead, glue on a flexible riser with cork or layers of leather. This will just flex with the bow, but give you sufficient support in the hand, especially once covered with a leather handle.
Heat treat this bow's belly and fix the tiller. You'll likely reach 110 pounds still, or at least 100 pounds. Also narrow the tips, as they seem far too wide to me.
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: adb on May 09, 2013, 11:05:03 am
Agreed. I've learned the hard way that you can't glue a riser on an already tillered bow that bends too much in the handle. It will just pop off... every time.
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: fisher2 on May 09, 2013, 12:42:06 pm
think i can retiller it and keep the last 10#?  im pretty decent at tillering but i want it as heavy as possible lol that cork/ leather is a cool idea i may just try it
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: adb on May 09, 2013, 12:53:29 pm
think i can retiller it and keep the last 10#?  im pretty decent at tillering but i want it as heavy as possible lol that cork/ leather is a cool idea i may just try it

If you're good at tillering, why did you buy this bow? Why didn't you make it yourself, using a $10 piece of hickory? I'm not looking to piss you off, just wondering why you'd buy such an obviously horrible bow. It cost $110 plus probably $30 shipping...
Title: Re: bend through or not to bend through
Post by: fisher2 on May 09, 2013, 01:11:40 pm
lack of time mostly the pic he included in the post had a well tillered bow so i was hoping haha and they dont sell hickory locally that i can find and i didnt want to buy online just to have it sit forever while i worked on it like 3 hrs a week heck, ive been working on a redoak board bow for a friend for close to a month i just never have daylight time i can sit and work on it its almost at the tillering stage now though