Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Cameroo on April 20, 2013, 02:18:57 am

Title: 87 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Cameroo on April 20, 2013, 02:18:57 am
It's been a while since I posted a bow, so I thought I might share this one since it's my first crack at an ELB.  It's a trilam consisting of osage, ipe, and a hickory backing.  It pulls about 87 lbs at 31 inches.  The bow is 72 inches nock to nock and weighs 687 grams.  The string is 14 strands of fast flight, weighing 7 grams.  I've had a couple chances to launch some arrows with this bow, and so far my best distance was 216 yards with a livery-weight arrow (measured with a rangefinder).  I'm new to warbow shooting, but I'm told that is a respectable cast for a bow of this weight and length.  I'm sure the bow's performance is hindered by my poor form as well.

I never really pictured myself becoming an English Longbow junky, but these things sure are fun to shoot, so I'm sure I'll be making more in the future!

Thanks for looking.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/10%20Trilam%20ELB/3.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/10%20Trilam%20ELB/12.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/80lbsat28in.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/10%20Trilam%20ELB/2P1040801.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/10%20Trilam%20ELB/2P1040822.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/10%20Trilam%20ELB/2P1040824.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/10%20Trilam%20ELB/2P1040821.jpg)

Edit - added decent full draw photo at top, added info on bow's performance after shooting it a few times.
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: JackCrafty on April 20, 2013, 02:24:12 am
Hypnotic.   :)
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: soy on April 20, 2013, 02:32:21 am
wicked cool man!!!
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Eastman on April 20, 2013, 05:00:51 am
Nice, I really like the combo!
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Del the cat on April 20, 2013, 05:58:41 am
That hint of extra stiffness on the lower limb is prob just right.
Nice, sounds like a good combo.
Del
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: blackhawk on April 20, 2013, 08:25:11 am
Sweet Cam !!! :)
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: lesken2011 on April 20, 2013, 08:57:19 am
Nice! Its looks like your core lam of ipe is parallel and all the taper is done with the osage. Is that right?
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Cameroo on April 20, 2013, 11:03:02 am
Thanks for all the comments guys.  Del you are one of the long bow gurus around here, so if you you figure the stiffness is ok, you'd know better than me.  Before this all I've ever done with ELB's is look at them :)

Lesken, you are right.  All of the lams were parallel at glueup. Any taper in the osage is just the result of tillering.

Del, this does seem to be a great combo so far - it didn't start taking any noticeable set until I got over 25 inches on the tiller tree.  I haven't measured the set yet but I think it is quite low.  It had a bit of string follow after my long tillering session last night, but I suspect most of that has come out after relaxing overnight (haven't checked yet, just crawled out of bed ;) )
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: bushboy on April 20, 2013, 11:08:07 am
Awesome!killer tiller!
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: adb on April 20, 2013, 11:42:07 am
Nicely done, Grasshopper! Spot on tiller for your first warbow/ELB! I can't wait to go out with yah and see how she shoots! Guess we gotta get you some proper arrows made for that beast. Once again, good work.
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Markus on April 20, 2013, 07:23:14 pm
Very nice. Markus
Title: Re: Almost done - 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Cameroo on April 21, 2013, 11:06:31 pm
Added some pics of a "stitchless" leather handle wrap (been wanting to try this for a while, I love how it turned out!) and one of the tips - up at the top in the first post.
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Ifrit617 on April 21, 2013, 11:47:31 pm
Awesome bow Cam! When you get a chance do you think you could do a tutorial on that grip? I absolutely love it!!!

JON
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Cameroo on April 22, 2013, 12:18:46 am
Thanks Jon.  I had a feeling someone might ask that, so I took some pics of the process.   ;)

Check this out:

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,39388.0.html (http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,39388.0.html)
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: bubby on April 22, 2013, 01:18:31 am
your glue ups are allways top notch Cam, sweet looker ya got there, Bub
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Dag on April 22, 2013, 03:39:17 pm
Awesome looking bow there Cam! I am a big fan of those overlays!
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: toomanyknots on April 22, 2013, 03:54:25 pm
Thats a slick bow. The handle is cool as heck.
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: adb on April 22, 2013, 08:32:18 pm
Thanks Jon.  I had a feeling someone might ask that, so I took some pics of the process.   ;)

Check this out:

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,39388.0.html (http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,39388.0.html)

The leather zipper handle... who'd a thunk it! Very nice, and thanks for sharing!!
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Cameroo on May 02, 2013, 01:06:30 am
Thanks for the kind words guys.  I went out with Adam (adb) today and finally got to launch a few arrows from this bow.  Despite being a total war bow greenhorn, I managed to sneak an arrow within 2 yards of a 5 gallon pail at 200 yards! I'm pretty sure it was fluke.

I had the bow tillered out on the tree to 80 lbs @ 29", thinking I'd shoot in the last inch.  After we were finished we realized we were shooting 31" arrows rather than 30.  I was drawing to the back of the bodkins, so I'm guessing it was pulling around 85-87lbs @ 31.

I had a blast though, and am sure there will be many more warbow shoots in the future!  Gotta go heavier now!

We tried to get a full draw pic a few times, unsuccessfully, so l'll have to settle for posting a screen capture from some of the video Adam took.

When I have some time I'll try to edit some of the video and throw it up on Youtube if anyone is interested.  He was shooting a couple different bows, one of them being a 90 lb maple backed yew that he finished recently.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/fulldraw.jpg)
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: dmc on May 02, 2013, 03:14:06 am
Real nice Cam, can't wait to see it in S'toon. What were the arrows made out of? What was the weight of the Bodkins?
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: Del the cat on May 02, 2013, 03:54:30 am
Nice pic,
Yeah, a full draw shot on a digital camera is pretty much impossible (presses button)
a screen capture from video is much (camera finally takes shot) better for getting that right moment.
If you take the video with the camera held 'portrait' rather than 'landscape' you can get more archer in the frame and maximiase the lower resolution of the video.
Del
Title: Re: 80 lb trilam ELB
Post by: bubby on May 02, 2013, 06:16:25 am
nice bend cam, bub