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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bushboy on April 17, 2013, 03:09:50 pm

Title: glue bow question?
Post by: bushboy on April 17, 2013, 03:09:50 pm
I think this is along the lines of a perry reflex glue up .my question is has anyone heat treated the back prior to glue up? My thinking is if the back is treated and covered by a backing all of the heat treated wood remains intact instead of some of the treated wood being removed thru tillering.maybe a dumb question ,but I'm thinking of performance.
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 17, 2013, 03:32:05 pm
Heat treating benefits the woods compression characteristics, the back works in tension.
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: RBLusthaus on April 17, 2013, 03:40:07 pm
X2
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Post by: Joec123able on April 17, 2013, 03:57:16 pm
Don't heat treat the back it needs some moisture to take stretching
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 17, 2013, 04:12:46 pm
Don't heat treat the back it needs some moisture to take stretching

What?
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Post by: Joec123able on April 17, 2013, 04:23:07 pm
Don't heat treat the back it needs some moisture to take stretching

What?

What did I say something wrong ??
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 17, 2013, 04:28:37 pm
 Unless I read it wrong you said wood needs moisture to stretch? I dont follow that thought.
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: Joec123able on April 17, 2013, 04:36:55 pm
Yes it does you don't want the wood to have zero moisture otherwise the wood becomes brittle. This doesn't include the belly because it's under compression.
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 17, 2013, 04:40:09 pm
Zero moisture is bad in compression and tension. The moisture driven out during the temper process is regained within a few days in a normal enviroment. There is no way to have a super dry belly and a kinda' dry back.
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: bushboy on April 17, 2013, 04:42:08 pm
By heat treating deflex in and then gluing in reflex would the limbs not store more energy because of the opposing forces? Unless I read it wrong this is the perry reflex principle
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: Joec123able on April 17, 2013, 04:43:02 pm
All im saying is you don't want to heat treat the back that's it.
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 17, 2013, 04:46:52 pm
You are exactly right, but mositure has zero to do with it.
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: Joec123able on April 17, 2013, 04:51:44 pm
You are exactly right, but mositure has zero to do with it.

Understood, yOu have much more knowledge than me so I won't argue that fact
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: Joec123able on April 17, 2013, 04:54:25 pm
By heat treating deflex in and then gluing in reflex would the limbs not store more energy because of the opposing forces? Unless I read it wrong this is the perry reflex principle


I would think this would put more strain on the back
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 17, 2013, 04:55:52 pm
Im not trying to give you a hard time or make it seem you have no clue Joe, as I dont know you "from Joe" and you could be a pro. What I do know is many, many folks read and learn here on this site and its nice if you can keep the info as accurate as possible for them. We dont want people dumping glasses of water on the back of their bow so it doesnt break! HAHAHAHAHA......Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: Joec123able on April 17, 2013, 05:02:40 pm
Im not trying to give you a hard time or make it seem you have no clue Joe, as I dont know you "from Joe" and you could be a pro. What I do know is many, many folks read and learn here on this site and its nice if you can keep the info as accurate as possible for them. We dont want people dumping glasses of water on the back of their bow so it doesnt break! HAHAHAHAHA......Stranger things have happened.


Hahaha yea that makes sence I know your just trying to get the right information out nothing wrong with that. Sorry if I came off as an a$$ lol
Title: Re: glue bow question?
Post by: Joec123able on April 17, 2013, 05:05:42 pm
Ohh and bushboy Sorry also
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Post by: blackhawk on April 17, 2013, 05:06:33 pm
I've tempered bellies on the "belly" side pre glue up ,as well as some others have done it and do also