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Title: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: KShip85 on April 05, 2013, 06:00:54 pm
I've been looking into shipping options for international shipments and have discovered that if I am going to make a shipment and not have my wife kill me because of the cost I will need to keep the finished package at 60" or less.  This either means I work on a shorter bow or make a takedown.  My question is would you rather have a takedown bow that was longer or a short bow that was made from a stave/laminate glue-up?  Thanks for the input all.

Kip
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: bubby on April 05, 2013, 06:31:18 pm
t/d
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: twisted hickory on April 05, 2013, 07:47:12 pm
Td
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: Squirrelslayer on April 05, 2013, 08:25:41 pm
If I had the choice it would be something like a sinew backed short bow made from just a stave. But I wouldn't mind having a takedown. SS
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: vinemaplebows on April 05, 2013, 09:47:25 pm
That is not true...you can ask for a bow that has a splice, (splice already cut) ask the seller for the bow unglued, and glue it yourself.


VMB
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: lostarrow on April 05, 2013, 10:52:59 pm
T/D
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: Slackbunny on April 05, 2013, 11:05:02 pm
I would prefer a takedown.
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: Pat B on April 05, 2013, 11:53:26 pm
60" is enough for a well tillered bow. What wood are you talking about.
You could also splice the smaller pieces at the handle and get a longer bow.
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: Josh B on April 06, 2013, 01:13:43 am
That is not true...you can ask for a bow that has a splice, (splice already cut) ask the seller for the bow unglued, and glue it yourself.


VMB

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, that sounds like it would be a bit tough to tiller.  Being two unattached halves and all.  Josh
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: vinemaplebows on April 06, 2013, 01:43:40 am
Maybe I am not understanding, but I was thinking he had a shipping size limit, and since the limit is 60" the only way to ship/or receive a bow from whatever country (England I think) is to ship that package 60" or less.....is that right? If so, the two 36 inch billets could be sent PRECUT then who ever is receiving the billets can glue them together ....now you have a 72 inch bow. :)


VMB
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: lostarrow on April 06, 2013, 01:49:13 am
I may have missread, but I think Kip is fishing for a response from his tradebow recipient. If someone was buying a bow ,they would be paying the shipping and his wife wouldn't have to kill him!(she wouldn't really do that would she ,Kip?)  So would everyone from the bow trade just give him a straight answer! ;) Not everything has to be a big debate! ::) That would be great if you were sending one to me. I 've been toying with the Idea of a takedown,or hinged bow for months.If you were to send one this way,I wouldn't have to go to the bother. ;D
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: Josh B on April 06, 2013, 02:03:14 am
What debate would that be?  I understood the question at hand to be about shipping a finished bow, and Brian was obviously under the impression that it was to be a blank or billets to be shipped.  No debate involved, just clarification.  Josh
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: vinemaplebows on April 06, 2013, 02:13:26 am
No debate here, could care less, was trying to solve a problem from what I read....like I said maybe I did not understand the original question sorry :)...I save debating for more important things. :laugh:

VMB
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: Jodocus on April 06, 2013, 03:42:48 am
No matter. I'd love a nice takedown, but 60' is enough for a fine bow as well.
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: hedgeapple on April 06, 2013, 04:27:21 am
No matter. I'd love a nice takedown, but 60' is enough for a fine bow as well.

At my 26" draw a slightly bendy handle 60 bow is nearly perfect. BUT a TD would be awesome.
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: mikekeswick on April 06, 2013, 04:35:04 am
[ If so, the two 36 inch billets could be sent PRECUT then who ever is receiving the billets can glue them together ....now you have a 72 inch bow. :)


VMB
[/quote]
2 x 36 inch billets would give a 68 inch bow     ;) ;)
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: bubby on April 06, 2013, 06:11:40 am
with a 60" package the bow is going to be max 58" ttt, got to have some protection on the tips, so 56" ntn, should be able to get a 26" draw on a bendy unbacked bow, I still think td, Bub
Title: Irritating answer. Don't Read It!
Post by: Del the cat on April 06, 2013, 06:29:20 am
Assuming the 60" limit is length, width or depth...
Shipping in a square a square box say 60x60x3 would allow an 84" bow!
I know this is true 'cos Mr Pythagoras that runs the kebab shop told me. :laugh:
Of course if you ship in a cube shaped box with the bow going diagonally it can be much much longer!
I can't be bothered to do the maths.
Del
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: lostarrow on April 06, 2013, 06:53:41 am
No debate here, could care less, was trying to solve a problem from what I read....like I said maybe I did not understand the original question sorry :)...I save debating for more important things. :laugh:

VMB
What debate would that be?  I understood the question at hand to be about shipping a finished bow, and Brian was obviously under the impression that it was to be a blank or billets to be shipped.  No debate involved, just clarification.  Josh
  Whoah ,there ,boys! Back up the cart.  Just a little joke. Didn't you see the goofy smiley things?Nothing malicious here. The sarcastic inflection obviously didn't come through on that one.
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: vinemaplebows on April 06, 2013, 11:55:04 am
[ If so, the two 36 inch billets could be sent PRECUT then who ever is receiving the billets can glue them together ....now you have a 72 inch bow. :)


VMB
2 x 36 inch billets would give a 68 inch bow     ;) ;)
[/quote]
 Yes, sir your right, was wondering how long it would take for someone to correct that. :laugh:
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: ionicmuffin on April 06, 2013, 12:03:42 pm
actually VMB what you really meant, is that the longest bow with 36inch billets is  68 inches. but in truth, you could make the bow a 50 incher. but you knew that anyway  ::) :P ;D
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: KShip85 on April 06, 2013, 02:35:44 pm
Haha, sorry for the confusion all.  Lostarrow is on to me :). I'm trying to make the best bow I can to ship out but the shipping is slightly, almost 2-3 times, more than I had anticipated.  Del, I hadn't even thought of that.  Just dusted off the ol' geometry skills and have a new maximum bow length of 63" minus a bit for tip protection.  Not a great improvement but at least a little better.  It looks like most people are saying t/d at the moment, might push me a little as I've not done one before.  Maybe I just need to make one of each and ship them both?


Kip
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: danny f on April 06, 2013, 02:48:53 pm
i would be happy with any, i like short bows but  a takedown would be cool too.
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: hatcha on April 06, 2013, 02:53:27 pm
Check with your post office for price differences between First Class postage and Priority postage.  Someone shipped an osage stave to me (Ireland) from America and "had to cut it down to 60 inches for shipping" (according to the post office official, but that would've been First Class.  Apparently, Priority postage doesn't have a length limitation - but I only found that out a long time after I got the stave :(
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: vinemaplebows on April 06, 2013, 03:45:33 pm
Ok, now I understand....I thought you were trying to purchase a bow blank to make a bow. :laugh:
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: lostarrow on April 06, 2013, 07:23:08 pm
have you checked out the sticky at the top of the bow page "Shipping bows and staves"? I just shipped my bow for red oak  trade . 2.5 KG. 68" long .it cost  $23.
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: KShip85 on April 06, 2013, 09:58:50 pm
have you checked out the sticky at the top of the bow page "Shipping bows and staves"? I just shipped my bow for red oak  trade . 2.5 KG. 68" long .it cost  $23.

Yeah, I've checked it before.  I've been looking at USPS using the online calculator and it won't let me enter a dimension over 60" for length.  Maybe I just need to drop by the post office and ask?


Kip
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: lostarrow on April 06, 2013, 10:55:05 pm
Yeah ,the pamphlet that Canada Post gives out is absolutely useless. The usually have a calculation based on length x dia. then they calculate the weight in some how with the cycle of the moon then divide that by Pi  ??? ...................wouldn't hurt to talk to someone at the counter.
Title: Re: A question for those outside the states, or whoever wants to give input
Post by: dwardo on April 07, 2013, 04:40:59 am
If 60 inch is the package length then would the bow not be more like 58 accounting for adequate padding?
Wouldn't want much less than that considering the ammount of baggage monkies involved.