Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: criveraville on March 26, 2013, 01:11:31 am
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I don't watch the news or listen to talk radio, but I was going to take Diego hunting with our 22s. WRONG. Apparently 22 amo and most pistol amo is nonexistent right now. Has been since December. I really don't understand. Are people stockpiling amo? And why 22 caliber?
Just plain dumb I can't buy 22 amo..
Cipriano
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Pain in the backside isn't it? I wanted to take my kids also and ran into the same problem. I've had two different stores tell me that they have buyers purchasing it straight from their warehouse it's not even making it to the store shelves, One person at Dick's sporting goods said it was a government buyer purchasing their ammo.Conspiracy theory? Maybe. A friend of mine suggested that due to all the gun ban scares and the fact that 22 ammo is cheap and can be used to kill just about everything if need be that is why you can't find any on the shelves, Joe public is scooping it all up. I found some ammunition by asking the stores when they stock ammunition and making sure I'm there first thing. Good luck
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Yep, people are stockpiling ammo. I went to buy a couple bricks for the 4h smallbore shooters, the guy said" yep, I got loads of it. $75 a brick, how many you want? " I told him I didn't want any and that I hoped when he got home, his own mother would come out from under the porch running on all fours and bite him on the leg! Then I walked back out. I don't think ever did catch on to what I was implying, but I had the satisfaction of telling him what i thought even if he was too dumb to catch it. The problem is that the 4h club is using my ammo now so the kids can shoot. I really don't have it to spare. Good luck Amigo, its getting ugly out there. Josh
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Yep. Pretty ridiculous really. We were going to shoot the 38 special too. Nope. Can't do that either. I went to Bass Pro in Grapevine yesterday and there seemed to be over 100 diff types of amo that were out. They tape stiky notes on the shelf indicating its out.
Cipriano
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The Gun Ban Scare AIN'T the half of it Fellers...
You might want to take a look at what our government is doing.
1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation...
The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6B rounds of ammo,
so far to little notice. It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition.
<<< This is story is on Forbes and other sites>>>
And DHS ain't the only governmental entity buying bullets...
There are Many other related stories out there...
Don't Aim to get political.
But Citizens don't make up the Lion's share of this Problem.
-gus
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Makes you wonder what are the DHS people are stocking up for? And should we be too?
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NOAA is also stock piling... I am wishing I had ammo right now, to sell out to the public, its worth its weight in gold right now... The T shirt is right, invest in precious metals... LEAD!
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Check out Natchezs Shooting supply, they have some at sensible prices.
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Thanks Eddie ;) will do.
Cipriano
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I bought about 3,000 rounds of 22's a few months back not knowing this was going to happen,22 is in my opion is the best all round suvival ammo you can have.That's why I bought it. $16.00 for 550 rounds,then. :)
Pappy
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I agree Cipriano it is chaos. I don't even spend time going to the outdoor stores in an attempt to buy any type of ammo. I still see folk at the farm store buying cases of shotgun shells if they have them just to stockpile. Between the threat of more gun control and zombie apocalypse , I'll just go knap some more ammo 8)
Tracy
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You're absolutely right Gus! I have a hard time talking about it without really speaking my mind and crossing the line into the p-word. So I will leave it at that. Josh
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It's even worse here in New York State!
The governor and downstate senators pushed through the SAFE act in the middle of the night, ignoring the law, which requires a three day period of debate before passing a new law!
The SAFE act bans all assault type weapons, gun clips can hold no more than seven rounds(gun manufacturers do not even make these clips), pistol permits which were good for life, now have to be renewed every five years, there will be universal back round checks for all gun purchases and all AMMUNITION PURCHASES, if you purchase too much ammo your name goes on a terrorist type watch list and you risk the possibility of investigation, (They will not tell you how much ammo is too much!)
My 22 which holds 16 rounds became and illegal weapon in NYS over night! and I also just found out that my SLINGSHOT is an illegal weapon in NYS! All of the police in NYS who carry Glocks,are carrying illegal weapons! There is a provision in the SAFEact that allows Hollywood producers to bring any type of illegal weapon into the state if they are filming here, but our police departments are prohibited from having or using these weapons!
And now there is a bill going before the NYS assembly which requires gun owners to carry a $1,000,000 liability insurance policy (originally it was written as $1,000,000 PER GUN OWNED!)
All of the upstate Counties and police departments have filed protests and come out against the SAFE act!!!
Only the down state(NY City/Albany) politicians and police are for it.
We are fighting this on the state level only, it seems that the NRA has written NYS off! There have been protests in Buffalo, Rochester and other upstate cities and 10,000 plus went to Albany to protest and there are plans to keep protesting.
When Cuomo and Bloomberg say this is not about taking guns away from thier owners they are LIEING!!!
Only a few weeks after the SAFE act took effect they arrested an Iraq war veteran who lives only 25 miles away from me, He is a PATRIOT! A war hero and purple heart recipient who while wounded himself saved his wounded comrades! He has NEVER been in trouble with the law before and now he faces 7 years in jail for selling an AR type rifle in an under cover sting!
Usually these types of cases are prosecuted at the county level but the Cuomo administration has appointed down state(NY city/Albany) judge and prosecutors to try the case!
This is CRAZY! The gun opponents are making criminals out of ordinary, law abiding citizens! almost everyone I know is stock piling guns, ammo, food and water because we are concerned that these draconian anti American laws will lead to civil unrest.
Even people I talk to who do not own guns oppose the SAFE act because they see it as a threat to thier first amendment rights!
Speak with everyone you meet in your daily activities! let them know what is happening in America!
Kevin
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Glad I'm Canadian. That's all I have to say. We've got some crappy gun laws here, but least our laws are heading the other direction. Our government just recently abolished the Long Gun Registry, a knee jerk reaction to the shootings in Quebec years ago.
But I worry for my southern neighbors. Good luck you guys.
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Glad I'm Canadian. That's all I have to say. We've got some crappy gun laws here, but least our laws are heading the other direction. Our government just recently abolished the Long Gun Registry, a knee jerk reaction to the shootings in Quebec years ago.
But I worry for my southern neighbors. Good luck you guys.
Slackbunny, you said a mouthfull there. I distinctly remember when that registry was enacted. I was at a gun show with my dad and Grandpa helping sell some of Grandpa's custom rifles. A few guys were gathered around shooting the breeze and watching Grandpa hand checker a stock. One of the guys started talking about the Canadian long gun registry and said that he was glad the people of the United states would never allow such draconian laws. The next thing I heard was a growl and the sound of a checkering tool chattering off across virgin walnut. I looked up at the guy that had made the comment and his jaw was touching his chest and eyes wide open in shock. I turned around to see Grandpa red faced and winding up for a blistering tyrade that started with "that's exactly the foolish niavety that will have us worse off than they are and before I pass, it will happen!" It got ugly and profane from there. The point is, he was exactly right all those years ago. Look at us now. :'( Josh
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I guess I better start stockpiling sharp pointed sticks
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Our local paper reported that in addition to 1.6 billion rounds of hollow point ammo, the DHS has also purchased 7000 assult rifles and 2000 light armored tanks lately. What do they know that we don't?
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Hollow point!? Are you sure it's hollow point? If so, that's very very bad! Hollow point ammo is against the Geneva convention. In other words, it can only be used domestically.....on us. Obviously, it comes as no surprise who they (uncle sucker) have in their crosshairs. What surprises me is that they are being so obvious about it. Its hard to explain away hollow points. Josh
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Ok, Lets make a few good bows and TONS of arrows, and drop the politics. I have some very, very crazy stuff to say about politics, but this is the campfire, guys, no politics.
Actually, I dont care. I a stockpiling sling ammo, as well as steel plate. I have given every one of my friends a tactical tommahawk as a christmas gift.
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Gun Doc - Yep, the article specified that it was mostly hollow point ammo and that it couldn't be used in war by the convention. The article said, it was obviously meant to be used in this country.
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Biting tongue for all I'm worth. Makes you wonder don't it, DQ ? Josh
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Let's start citing sources like they made us do in high school. Also, I would like to read this for myself.
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Tim - That article was in the Clare County Cleaver, Harrison, Michigan on Thursday, March 21st, 2013. I have no way of proving that the information is correct.
Thanks for asking, DQ
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According to Snopes, the DHS did sign a contract with suppliers to purchase 1.7 billion rounds of various ammo over the next 5 years. The "tanks" are light armored vehicles that the Marine Corps contracted to be refitted after they came back from deployment in the sandbox, nothing to do with DHS.
any reasons put forward as to why the DHS needs 350 million rounds per year are purely speculation.
We are experiencing an ammo bubble, much like the housing bubble and every other commodity that's been swept up in a panic.
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If you google Homelandsecurity buying ammo or the NYS SAFE act you will find more than enough to cause concern for our country.
Kevin
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...and you know if it is on the internet it has to be true. ;)
Guys, I don't mind the conversation but lets keep the rules in mind.
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You do have a valid point Pat. Just because you read it on the internet that doesn't necessarily make it so. On the other hand, sticking ones head in the sand and denying what's happening doesn't make it any less so. I guess in the end, we all have to choose what we think is right and hope we aren't to far off the mark when we decide what to do about it. Josh
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I think people are being paraniod, and the ammunition (like the oil companies) are making a bundle.....remember that oil prices are based on speculation, as long as you keep your buyers scared they will buy more, EVEN at a ridiculious price increases. The bad is it's EASY for prices to go up in a panic, NOT so easy for them to go down because now THEY know what you are willing to pay!
Last and I say the most rediculious idea of some civil unrest.....come on guys (talking in general here) who is REALLY going to be pointing a gun at the cops, or military?? I think this is male mocho (grunting :laugh:)
As far as DSHS (OR WHOEVER) buying ammo, I really doubt that the people of this country including those that are armed, would seriously take arms against a well armed society like ours....REGARDLESS of the buying spree. My .02
VMB
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Hey Squirrel, this isnt talking politics, its talking guns, ammo, and current news. :) No rule breaking going on over here :D Other than that...
Hey, VNB, I bet the Brits thought the same thing, what farmer will take up arms against the king of England? And on the flip side of that, back in the day, every citizen was armed, and the Gov still turned on them. ( now Squirrel, we are talking history, not politics ) The Brits thought their training was the advantage, also being more heavily armed than the citizen, and didnt hesitate to fire on citizens when they took up arms.
Dont think that it wouldnt happen again. It is the same thought process now as it was then. The citizens are armed, there fore they are protected, and the gov has bigger guns and training, so they are more powerful. Only in time of war can that Vs be settled.
I have lots I could add to this, but I am one of those ( paranoid ) folks that fears the Gov monitoring my communication, as I am on the terrorist watch list. Give you one guess why I am on that list. Some of you who know me may be able to figure it out.
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What PatB said. ;) Emotional subject for sure and everyone has their thoughts and opinions on it,I have mine and will Tell you about them sometime off the site. Most that know me know how I feel. Just please keep it civil and follow the rules of the site. Yall Done mighty fine so far but we all know this can go bad fast. ;) :) :)
Pappy
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I was really caught off guard with run on 22 ammo, may have 50 rounds total and less than a box of 38, 45 and 308 each. I did pick up a few cases of 12ga to insure I had my opening day of dove season(long standing tradition) supply in place for the next few years.
On the up side, if the worst happens, I do have almost 100 lbs of lead I picked up at the range at Briarfield while attending several ASTB archery shoots and a can or two of BP. These components and a few flint rocks out of the creek and I can make my flinters go bang long after cartridge guns become extinct.
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When I made my first response to this post I thought I might be pushing the envelope, or it might be misconstrued that way.I hope not,because I never viewed it as a political issue, it's not a right wing/left wing, red state/blue state issue.
It's a civil issue, an American issue.The second amendment to the constitution, is the second amendment to protect our first amendment rights and all of the others, and the threats we are now facing should be of concern to all Americans.
Ammo disapearing off the shelf is only one indicator of what could possibly be happening, but what is happening in New York is REALLY happening and all Americans should know about it and be concerned about it.
The crazy shootings that we are seeing now in our country shock and sadden us all no matter what your political persuasion.We all want to see a solution to this problem and those that see it as strictly a gun issue are missing the point. It's a civil issue, it's a mental health issue.
All of these mass shooters had histories and were known but were never reported, we used to treat people with mental health issues and we had treatment facilities for them but now we don't. We allow our children to play these first person shooter games that train them to kill people.
It's a civil issue, it's a societal issue and we here on PA live in this society, and it's a good thing that we discuss this respectfully. I have no desire to disrespect or cause an argument with anyone here, one of the reasons I love PA so much is because we all get along and respect each other.
That said I have no desire to break the rules and will try to keep my further comments in line.
Kevin
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Kevin, there is no problem with what you originally posted on Around the Campfire. I chimed in just as a reminder to all to please consider the rules before posting. I don't want to have to ban anyone but I will if needed. With threads like this it is easy for it to get out of hand with just a simple comment from someone.
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Sleek,
The difference between the US and Britain is we (the US) are certifiabily one of the most violent cultures on the planet.......we have guns and we are not afraid of using them, thus the recent senseless violence at schools and such. There are murders every day that involve firearms, and with the amount of fire power in our society it would be sucicide for the goverment to come door to door to collect your guns. I predict "if" anything it will happen (or they will try) to slowly deminize all firearms. They didn't get smoking cigarettes deminized for several decades it was a slow steady attack that has changed peoples perception of smoking, and now is not excepted by the majority in our society. (smoking is a example)
So they will go after high capacity mags AK style firearms because it is a weak link, not everybody sees military style weapons as a "reasonable need" therefore it will be society itself that will disarm itself, with the goverment sighting studies of violence and the need for a more shall we say "healthier" enviroment for our children to live in. ;)
I personally own lots of guns, but I rarely use anthing larger than a .22 mag and I do believe in the right to bear arms....... :laugh:
VMB
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VMB
I think it's possible that perception and reality are two different things in this case,We might view ourselves as one of the most violent cultures on the planet and the rest of the world might view us that way also but is it really so?
Look at the terrorism and bombings coming from the middle east and south east Asia, the wars and genocide in Africa, there have been mass shootings in Canada, Sweden,Great Britan and other places, even China, where they don't have guns , there have been mass killings.
Violence is a problem that we as humans, world wide, have always had to deal with.
I agree with you that we need to change attitudes, the way we did with smoking, but I think the attitude we need to change is the thinking that guns are the problem.
I believe that the problems we are seeing now in America are cultural, our society is changing, we do not treat the mentally ill any more, we have games that train our children to kill people,we used to believe in "do un to others" but now it's "do it to them, before they do it to us" and while I'm doing it to others I might just get my 15 minutes of fame on the nightly news casts!,and we vote for politicians that we know are lieing to us, and represent and are bought and paid for by big business and not us, "we the people". And instead of addressing the problems, of dealing with the mentally ill, gang violence and enforcing the laws to fight crime, it looks like our government, or people in our government are trying to disarm us.
Right here in N.Y. a man who has never been in trouble with the law is facing 7 years in jail for selling a gun that was legal before the SAFE act, and made illegal after the SAFE act. I just saw on one of the news casts another New yorker was arrested, they called him an "unlicensed gun smith" and seized 300 guns. In New York they are starting to Make criminals out of law abiding citizens and they are taking our guns.
I know that it sounds like I am some kind of gun fanatic, but I am not.I own a few shot guns, a couple of black powder guns and a 22 and I rarely hunt with my guns any more because I love archery so much. And politically I do not side with the right or the left, I have always been centrist in my thinking, I believe in compromise and working things out amongst ourselves, but what we are dealing with here in N.Y., and America as a whole, has little to do with gun violence, it looks more like disarming the citizenery.
We should be dealing with our problems, and not making ordinary citizens criminals.And we can only do this by talking amongst ourselves,compromising and agreeing with each other and voting for those who will really work for "we the people" to change our government and our society.
Kevin
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I understand your view, and can appriciate your concern. I believe NY is a test to see how far they can push....they know darn well it will backfire to a point, but the waters will continue to be tested till the "tide" turns. Everybody that has a right (or wants to maintain the right) better think about "how" they vote, and whom they vote for...I won't go any farther than that. Good luck to all.....and I wish I had stock in ammo manufacturing right now! :laugh:
VMB
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VMB
I agree with you 100%, people are watching NY to see what happens, testing the waters so to speak.Right now the SAFE act is the law of the land in NY and the Cuomo administration is pressing ahead and prosecuting people, there are several court challenges that could possibly over turn this law and we are hopeful, but I think most of the supposed experts think it will be very difficult.
Scott D
I heard those dumb Biden statements before, but I never saw that video, Laughed my behinder off!
Kevin
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This 'firearmageddon' will most likly go down in the history books as one of the largest rights movments in recent history. The statistics of the millions of guns bought and new NRA members are pretty astounding, and quite encouraging.
Its a different world now than it was in '94. "Gun Culture" doesn't just include old men in flannel shirts who just go hunting, its a huge culture now which contains many urban dwellers and a lot more female shooters. And they aren't just shooting grandpa's .22, they are shooting ARs, plastic pistols, and tactical schools/courses are quite popular and ubiquitous all over the country now.
The vast majority of the weapons laws we already have are moronic and pretty ambiguous. Because they were/are made by people that know nothing about firearms (like Biden) except what they see on TV and have a complete misunderstanding of how violence and the criminal/citizen relationship works. Now with the new propsed laws the public is generally better educated so they are much more likely to be shot down. The 'assault weapons' ban (which was really just for guns that looked scary, not even assault weapons) was already shot down. I was really thrilled about that.
Back to the OP, The Rifleman said that things should be back to normal stock wise in about a year if nothing happens government wise.
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Ironic, just today an officer was shot at our little town on the coast of Wa. state. We (almost) never hear of a police shooting out here....well guess the guy had bought ammo before he got raided! :laugh:
VMB
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Thanks for the info. I am alarmed by it all. It makes me think about the "what if" there was an ACTUAL catastrophic event. If there is a shortage now. I always thought "stockpiling" something like amo was an extreme thing to do. Now I'm not so sure.
I agree Pappy. The 22 is the best all around round for providing for your family if it came to that.
Overall it saddens me to think about the world my children and my students will grow up in.
Josh that's just ridiculous. There are laws against price gauging. You should report him to the ATF.
Cipriano
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Check out Natchezs Shooting supply, they have some at sensible prices.
Eddie they are all out too. Five pages of 22 ammo and five pages of 38 special out too.. Thanks for the info. I will keep checking.
Cipriano
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I appreciate the sentiment Amigo! But I don't believe that I'll be calling that particular agency.......ever! I will pass on my thoughts of the business to all the shooters I visit with in the area. Which is most of em. That quick profit will more than likely cost them a lot of business in the long run. Josh
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Here in NY the backround checks for ammo purchases part of the SAFE act doe's not take effect until the beginning of next year and most of the people I know are trying to buy as much as possible, but you cannot find rifle or pistol rounds on the store shelves. The stores have only shotgun shells left and they are running out of those also.
There has been a run on air rifles also and pellets. I also heard that some air gun manfacturers will not ship to NY.
Scott, a few days ago my neighbor mentioned that he thinks he has about 30,000 rounds, not so crazy, you never know what the future holds.
Kevin
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Scott,
The exodus from NY has been happening for a while, so many have moved to south Florida that they now call it "NY South".
It seems that people are moving from all parts of the state except the NYC/Albany area, most of NY's population is in that area and that is why down state senators control all of the political descisions, they care nothing about the rest of the state.
There has been talk for years of splitting NY into two states, New York and Western New York. I think that would be best for the north and west of NY but I doubt it will happen.
Kevin
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This isn't the first time that ammo has become scarce from hoarder panic and won't be the last time either. The gun and ammo manufacturers celebrate whenever one certain party is in office because it means overtime and profitability.
And when the pendulum swings back the other way, I open my wallet and buy ammo again when the prices are back down. Kinda like Wall Street savvy buyers, buy in a Bear Market and sell in the Bull Market.
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REDICULIOUS PRICES!! HAVE AT IT! ;D
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;) ;D ;D ;D 33.99 ant that high, it was almost 20 before this all started for 550 box :) :) around here it's 15.00/16.00 for 100 count. :)
Pappy
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I was in Gander Mountain yesterday, they had about 10, 50 round boxes of 22 ammo on the shelf. If they were placed in the proper place and not just randomly thrown on the shelf the price tag under them said $24.98. I need some, but not that bad.
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I have enough bullets to keep the varmints at bay for now so I am not joining the madness. I know one thing for sure though - the next time the prices come down and the shelves are all stocked and the party politics swings the other way - I am going to invest. I am kicking my own ass for not making a fortune through this silly episode.
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Just a suggestion for those who have high powered rifles and want to plink. I reload and many moons ago got a good supply of lead for casting. I cast rifle load a few grain of pistol powder (10/12 grains of Unique and 125 grain cast bullet, 1600 fps...just one recipe) and hunt small game with my deer rifle. You want to be a crack shot with a deer rifle give it a try. Not as cheap as 22 ammo used to be but sure fun and I've got enough lead and powder to last a long time.............. I've killed countless rabbits and squirrels with my 30/06, 32 Winchester, 270 WSM, etc with very little meat damage..... sorry to get off track???
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I was thinking along the same lines Coaster!
My Hornet is way cheaper for now than these prices for 22 shells being posted on here !
I may never have to buy shells again ! By the way its all ready been close to 10 years since I have bought any shells to speak of !
Have fun folks !
Guy
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As long as we have a supply of primers, my old man and I have enough 00 buckshot and powder to make more "rat loads" than we'll ever need
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Here in NY black powder is almost impossible to get,round balls and percussion caps are getting scarce.
Kevin
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This morning I lucked out and was able to buy several cases of ammo.
On the way home I stopped at the gas station where a drop-dead gorgeous blond was filling up her car at the next pump.
She looked at the ammo in the back of my truck and said in a very sexy voice,
"I'm a big believer in barter, big boy. Would you be interested in trading some lovin' for ammo?"
I thought a few seconds and asked, "what kinda ammo ya got?" >:D
-gus
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Lower Alabama is dried up with the exception of 12gauge turkey loads :(. I have not seen a brick of 22's in 2 months.
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Bout the only good way to buy BP is in bulk, $14.90 a pound to your door if you buy 25lbs, places like Powder Inc will fix you up. Usually you can find a few friends interesting in splitting a case.
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Here in NY(I'm starting to sound like a broken record) it's illegal to have more than 5lbs. in your possession.
Are'nt politicians wonderful?And I would not be suprised to find out that powder Inc. will not ship to NY.
Here's another good one, throwing stars are illegal in NY but throwing knives are OK. ???
Kevin
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This morning I lucked out and was able to buy several cases of ammo.
On the way home I stopped at the gas station where a drop-dead gorgeous blond was filling up her car at the next pump.
She looked at the ammo in the back of my truck and said in a very sexy voice,
"I'm a big believer in barter, big boy. Would you be interested in trading some lovin' for ammo?"
I thought a few seconds and asked, "what kinda ammo ya got?" >:D
-gus
What caliber you get?
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Gus, your killin me! ( Insert Big Bore rounds jokes that really ought not be said here... )
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You da man Gus ;D
I was at the local Walmart yesterday and the guy in sporting goods said that they get ammo in every night at 7pm and stock it late at night when ammo can't be sold until 6 am. Then by 7 am it is gone. Also no 22's here except for 22 mags.
Tracy
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Powder Inc will ship in 5# lots but the delivered price jumps to $23.90 a pound, the hazmat fee is the same for one pound or 50 pounds. No mention on their order page about not shipping to NY. Usually there is such a statement if there is a state they won't ship to. There was a run on BP just like regular ammo so there is about a month wait to get your order filled.
Gander Mountain and Bass Pro usually have it for about the same price but you have to ask for it as they keep their stock in the back, not on the shelves. Some of the employees they have on the floor don't even know they carry it so you have to ask several to know for sure if they do or don't have it.
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I could kick myself for not buying a brick of .22 ammo about a month ago from a local sporting
goods store. They had several cases of it, were limiting it to one brick per customer.
I'll keep looking I reckon....
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Thank's Eric, I'll pass on the link to Powder Inc to my pal who is looking to buy some BP.
Kevin
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Here in NY(I'm starting to sound like a broken record) it's illegal to have more than 5lbs. in your possession.
Are'nt politicians wonderful?And I would not be suprised to find out that powder Inc. will not ship to NY.
Here's another good one, throwing stars are illegal in NY but throwing knives are OK. ???
Kevin
Hey Kevin,
More than 5 pounds of ammo is illegal here? Where are you fining these laws? I'm curious how many are affecting me and I don't even know it.
Jon
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5lb of bulk black powder, Ifrit. It's a fire code thing where I'm at.
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Jon,
I did not look up the ny law regarding the 5lbs of BP I was told that by more than one of my rendezvous buddies.
Kevin
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Wall then, she's bound to be the God's Own Gospel Truth and nothin' but! I swar I ain't never heard nothing even doubtable, much less smellin' untrue at a Rendezvous! I'll swear on Jim Bridger's hair on that one!
>:D >:D >:D
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Ok. Your right, some of NY laws sure are wacky. >:D Thanks.
Jon
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Some? ;D
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Jon, JW,
Meet you guy's in times square and I'll buy you a Big Gulp!
Just don't bring a sling shot or throwing stars, or cuomo and bloomberg will have an APB put out on you. ;)
Kevin
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So if the "ammo scarcity" is due to hunting, shooting, rooting, tooting good O'l boys buying it up out of fear is true.. Well that's just plain dumb..
More dumb was me not having any on hand :-[
Cipriano
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A friend of mine is going to shooting air rifles now.Expensive reset up but there is ammunition available and I guess they really do pack a punch.
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Beadman,
A few of my friends have bought air rifles reciently, one of the guns blasts through 1/16 thick aluminum.
Kevin
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Air guns are definitely a good option. Cheap to shoot and ammo is still available.
Jon
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So, with that much power, we aren't talkin pellet riffles here... what exactly are these airguns?
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Manny from Hawaii was killing hogs with his 45 cal. air rifle.
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Wow, now I want one of these.... Wonder if its difficult to cast your own ammo? Or even carve it like a blow gun....
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Sleek they sell it. Go to Google pyramid air and you'll find what were talking about.
Jon
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I asked about BP restrictions in NY on the major M/L site, got mixed opinions. One said it was #5 per legal shooter in a household, one said he had never hear of any and ordered #25 that was shipped to him in upstate NY, another said his club bought cases, split them up between members and didn't know of any restrictions. Lastly, one guy said it was impossible to be legal in NY because of so may obscure regs on the books so he just bought what he needed.
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This morning I lucked out and was able to buy several cases of ammo.
On the way home I stopped at the gas station where a drop-dead gorgeous blond was filling up her car at the next pump.
She looked at the ammo in the back of my truck and said in a very sexy voice,
"I'm a big believer in barter, big boy. Would you be interested in trading some lovin' for ammo?"
I thought a few seconds and asked, "what kinda ammo ya got?" >:D
-gus
I bet it was hell when the alarm went off Gus :)
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I asked about BP restrictions in NY on the major M/L site, got mixed opinions. One said it was #5 per legal shooter in a household, one said he had never hear of any and ordered #25 that was shipped to him in upstate NY, another said his club bought cases, split them up between members and didn't know of any restrictions. Lastly, one guy said it was impossible to be legal in NY because of so may obscure regs on the books so he just bought what he needed.
Eric, Things are so screwed up with NY and the politicians, I have no doubt that all of those stories are true. I cited the 5lbs per household because my pals who are more experienced with BP than me said that was what they understood as the law.
Kevin
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This morning I lucked out and was able to buy several cases of ammo.
On the way home I stopped at the gas station where a drop-dead gorgeous blond was filling up her car at the next pump.
She looked at the ammo in the back of my truck and said in a very sexy voice,
"I'm a big believer in barter, big boy. Would you be interested in trading some lovin' for ammo?"
I thought a few seconds and asked, "what kinda ammo ya got?" >:D
-gus
I bet it was hell when the alarm went off Gus :)
Ummmm.. Gus.. I don't get it??
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In otherwords, He musta been dreamin....
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So, with that much power, we aren't talkin pellet riffles here... what exactly are these airguns?
They basically are just pellet guns, but they shoot upwards of 1000 fps, as compared to the typical 500fps or less of your standard pellet gun. I own one, and it can put a pellet clear through a 3/4 inch board. Its a great rig, but its heavy as hell. Weighs a lot more than either my rifle or my shotgun.
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Thanks Sleek.. I thought it was a true story and wanted to know what type of ammo he had bought.. >:D
Cipriano
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Harrumph,
In an effort to come clean on the matter I will simply say...
"What were we talking about?"
O:)
-gus
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LOL, Which time Gus?
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I found WINCHESTER 22 LR 555 ROUNDS BOXS 45.00
Not paying it..
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I've been having luck at our local Bimart and Walmart about every other week I've lucked into bricks of 22's they have us on a two box limit though. I have noticed more and more handgun rounds and a few of the more common hunting calibers on the shelves.