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Title: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: bow101 on March 10, 2013, 08:48:06 pm
Which do you prefer to use/and make.? Flemish or Endless style.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Slackbunny on March 10, 2013, 09:16:17 pm
I use flemish because its what I learned first. I've read that flemish is also somewhat quieter, but I can't back that up personally. I also like the way the loops look.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Rick Wallace on March 10, 2013, 09:36:22 pm
Continuous loop for me. Easier i think
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: twilightandmist on March 10, 2013, 09:41:16 pm
reverse twist, all the way. one long strand, then take the end and weave it back through to make the loop, making it the same thickness at the loop instead of half. in my experience, they tend to be lighter, sturdier strings that last longer. just my opinion, and i dont have much experience with endless loop other than synthetics.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: osage outlaw on March 10, 2013, 09:42:09 pm
I started out making endless loop but switched to flemish twist last summer.  I find it much easier and quicker to twist up a flemish string. 
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: DavidV on March 10, 2013, 09:43:18 pm
I learned flemish loop first and have used it for every string I make. I do like to buy endless loop strings though because they're cheaper and in my opinion more durable.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: lostarrow on March 10, 2013, 09:46:26 pm
Flemish. quick and easy .Looks traditional. Easy to add fur string silencers. Easy to fine tune the length by twisting to get a good arrow flight.Takes about 20 -30mins with serving and nocking point.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Arrowind on March 10, 2013, 10:37:48 pm
Like both but prefer Flemish for many of the same reasons as lostarrow.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: ksnow on March 10, 2013, 10:52:37 pm
Flemish, for all of the reasons already listed.  Fast, easy, easy to adjust, can even move them from one bow to another.

Kyle
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 10, 2013, 11:06:02 pm
I make a Flemish. It is easier for me. Jawge
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Olanigw (Pekane) on March 10, 2013, 11:13:04 pm
I've always made endless, but most of my experience is production work for outfitting youth camps on the cheap.  I'm looking forward to doing a sideXside comparison as soon as my old FB lam'd bow is back in shooting shape.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Rufledt on March 10, 2013, 11:42:41 pm
My vote is flemish.  I learned to make that one first and I've been too happy with it to try making an endless string.  I did use purchased endless strings before learning how to make a flemish string, but the lack of adjustability made me stop buying them.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Pat B on March 11, 2013, 12:12:14 am
Flemmish twist! Always have. It is the most traditional if that matters.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: mikekeswick on March 11, 2013, 04:37:04 am
I use flamish but endless string are faster.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Stefan on March 11, 2013, 06:02:18 am
Endless for me!  Flemish are just like a coil spring, with low braceheight they slap your wrist, they stretch more than  an endless loop from the same material. I do use a flemish string for tillering, when the bow is finished i make a endless string
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Del the cat on March 11, 2013, 07:04:27 am
Endless.
The amount of people who have strings slip with the bracing height going and nocking point moving drives me nuts.
Quick and easy to make (if you make a jig), and a much more consistent brace height.
Maybe it's just modern slippery strin materials that allow bowyers knots to slip?
Del
(I have done a linnen flemish twist, just for the heck of it)
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: bubby on March 11, 2013, 03:11:00 pm
twist, my knots don't slip, put two loops on my finished strings most the time
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 11, 2013, 05:18:34 pm
A good Flemish is hard to make. It should have only 1-3 twists per inch tops and 1-2 is better. It should not be served until all stretching has stopped and the stretching will stop. Bring the bow to brace height and keep unstringing and stringing until stretching stops. Then serve. That should end problems for most, Del. Jawge
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: Pat B on March 11, 2013, 05:56:25 pm
After I make a flemish twist string for a bow I brace the bow, lay it across my knees and press down on the limb tips to prestretch the string. After I sure most of the stretch is gone I tie an overhand knot on the tag to prevent any additional knot slippage.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: TRACY on March 11, 2013, 06:42:16 pm
Done both and prefer Flemish. I've not had stretch or low brace problems with Flemish. Maybe strings are a tad long?


Tracy
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: H Rhodes on March 12, 2013, 01:11:49 pm
I make both.  I am still trying to make up my mind which one I like the most.  I twist up endless loop strings to raise the brace height just like I would a flemish twist string.  I can't tell the difference in the performance.  I use B-50 and both types have a little stretch at first, but that goes away.  Flemish is pretty and a little quicker to make.
Title: Re: Flemish or Endless style
Post by: adb on March 12, 2013, 07:24:22 pm
Flemish. Once I learned how, it was so easy I couldn't stop laughing.