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Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 16, 2013, 10:19:59 pm
Here are a couple pictures of the guys working on a tiller.
The second picture is of the group of bows we are working on.
Title: Re: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Adam on February 16, 2013, 10:26:22 pm
That looks like a lot of fun.  Those are some great lloking staves, especially the one on the right.  I'd love tomsee that one when it's done.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: MWirwicki on February 16, 2013, 10:34:40 pm
Looking good!  Bow night is Tuesday's at my place.  Had a lady join last week.  Its very rewarding.  Good on ya John.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Will H on February 16, 2013, 11:03:58 pm
Very cool John :)
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 17, 2013, 10:00:21 am
Hey Will did you see the stave on the right that was from you two years ago.
@ Adam you and me both on seeing it finished. I have been chicken to work on it for the past year. I was hoping my bow building skills would catch up to the difficulty level of that stave. 
@ Matt hmmmm may have to crash your tuesday night sometime one of these summers.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Sidewinder on February 17, 2013, 12:08:28 pm
Good for you Ioawbow. Thats the way to pass it on. Our group bow night is every other Friday as I live away from the city and the guys I have coming out live there and can't get away as often.  I'm thinking the one on the right will be crazy good if you can pull it off.   Danny
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: bushboy on February 17, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
Great looking bows and staves,makes me have yeller wood envy!just kidding,actally I'm not!lol!
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: JackCrafty on February 17, 2013, 01:22:02 pm
 8)
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: KellyG on February 17, 2013, 01:28:51 pm
great looking bunch (of bows that is).
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 17, 2013, 02:22:45 pm
great looking bunch (of bows that is).
Lol best post ever lol
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: randman on February 17, 2013, 02:41:18 pm
Looks like an awesome set of bows. Really want to see the one on the right finished. Looks challenging.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: jr 2bow on February 22, 2013, 06:45:32 pm
just wanted to say thanks again for gettin me started on a different stave, since the bow that i almost had done cracked that dam crackhore. Your a hell of a bow maker. I still like the one you just done Sunday ee ya this Sunday. Thanks again,  Paul
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 22, 2013, 08:09:00 pm
Lol yep that stave was trouble from the start. Anyway we really made some progress on the new one and it should make a fine bow. It never blew up but it is better to be safe than sorry ya never know about those edge cracks.  Besides the woods are full of osage. One day in the future we all will tiller it out and see what happens. I just did not want you to blow up your first bow. I bet we get her done on sunday.
I should have jw's done on sunday also....no pictures so jw cant peek.

And you are welcome ..helping the new guy build his first bow is just as fun as making your own.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: jr 2bow on February 22, 2013, 08:45:08 pm
J.W's bow is going to be nice your doin a nice job on it, think he will like it alot. If not Iwill take it. lol see you on bowday
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 22, 2013, 09:39:25 pm
That's good to see! Jawge
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: JW_Halverson on February 22, 2013, 10:01:07 pm
J.W's bow is going to be nice your doin a nice job on it, think he will like it alot. If not Iwill take it. lol see you on bowday

Console yourself with a big bowl of NOT A CHANCE!   ;D

I'd consider myself blessed to get a bucket of iowabow's sweepings off his shop floor and be pleased to pay the shipping.  For that matter, I'll drive over to pick up that bow so we can get some pics shooting it in your yard!  See you in May!
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: toomanyknots on February 22, 2013, 10:23:27 pm
Heck ya, put them guys to work!  ;D
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 22, 2013, 10:37:44 pm
On sunday some of the first guys from the first group are  coming over to help with the new group ...should be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Carson (CMB) on February 22, 2013, 10:44:39 pm
On sunday some of the first guys from the first group are  coming over to help with the new group ...should be a lot of fun.

Student now teacher must become  ;D

Nice work Iowa bow!
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: randman on February 23, 2013, 05:35:11 pm
Wood envy!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 24, 2013, 08:35:54 am
Looking forward  :(to today. My first class and my second class are going to gather here at the house for a day of bow building. I worked a ring yesterday and applied a layer of glue on this stave that I plan to bring to the classic. Today we are going to finish tillering their bow and working out the
Also going to teach them how to split a log

we will be dropping arrows on the targets by night fall
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: jr 2bow on February 25, 2013, 08:03:20 am
thats the other half of the one im workin on it looks like its gonna be another nice bow
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Pappy on February 25, 2013, 08:41:58 am
Nice job,way to pass it on John. :) Good looking staves yall have.Should make some fine bows. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 25, 2013, 10:27:11 am
Good times and bad but its all about learning. We had a bow fail after heating it to align the string. I called Will to figure out what happened and because of winter the mositure in the bow was low so it seperated with a crack horizonal to the limb. I wanted to share this with others because I never saw this before. What we should have done was wait a couple if days before we pulled it to allow the stave to rehydrate. Live and learn but hate to see it in a new bow at had a great tiller.
Now for the good ....Paul's stave is looking great and should make a nice bow.

Tom's bow is done and got it first shoots yesterday!
So good times on sunday here in Iowa!!!!
Also Scott stopped in as he was passing through.
Annette made us all lunch had it was great!
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Del the cat on February 25, 2013, 11:18:30 am
You boys are havin' way too much fun :laugh:
Pretty slick to get that pic of the arrow going through the chrono'
I hope you tidied up afterwards :-*  ;)
Del
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Stringman on February 25, 2013, 11:29:10 am
That was fun, John. Glad I got the chance to stop in and mess things up for ya.  >:D ;D 
That's a cool shot with the chrono, but looks like the limbs are off balance somehow. Never seen that before...

Tell Annette lunch was GREAT (and the real reason I swung by. ::) )
Let's do this again in a few weeks want to?!?

Scott
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Del the cat on February 25, 2013, 11:43:08 am
... but looks like the limbs are off balance somehow. Never seen that before...
Scott
That's probably just an artefact of the frame scan in the digital camera...
I've seen weird stuff like that when grabbing a frame from video too. I think it shows up on vertical lines most, which is why the arrow looks ok.
I've seen pics where the string shows up as a huge S shape.
Del
PS.
Ooooh just noticed that old style vice (vise) in the penultimate shot... that's really cool.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 25, 2013, 05:57:39 pm
Not sure about messing things up?

 Just kinda  running things like twin oaks with Gary Davis where we all have one idea about a particular design so they learn one method together and learn from each other in the process. Kinda like having parents on the same page so the kids dont get mixed mesages. Next time we need time to be on the same page for the student. We need to pick one design for them all to work with because if their bow fails then they can see how the process worked correctly with the other student  that shared the same design. This helps them see where they went wrong and where it went right with others in the class. It is very good to have help and it was appreciated.

As far a the chrono well it is the wonder of the modern camera ...can't always believe what you
see Scott. Look at the string on the bottom limb it appears two be cut in to and broke! Kinda a fun picture.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: JackCrafty on February 25, 2013, 07:34:16 pm
Oh man!  Now I'm not only jealous but hungry too!   :-\
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 25, 2013, 07:40:53 pm
Oh man!  Now I'm not only jealous but hungry too!   :-\
Lol dont be jealous our band is only 6 but counting. We lost one to the military. Thinking of getting another group together this .summer
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 26, 2013, 12:24:13 am

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Ooooh just noticed that old style vice (vise) in the penultimate shot... that's really cool.
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I have never used that vise before this event. I dont even remember where I bought it but have hauled it around for 30 years and three different states. I was cleaning the basement last month and saw it and though it would make a nice bow vise.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Josh B on February 26, 2013, 12:39:30 am
I wish that I lived a little closer John.  I really enjoyed the last time you did this.  Maybe I'll be in the neighborhood again sometime and can help out a little.  Josh
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: jr 2bow on February 26, 2013, 08:03:04 am
    sunday was a long day. But learned alot more than one way to make a bowthats for sure just like everything else you put two guys together that do the same thing you get two different ways of doing things, Inice to put a face with the voice Scott seems like a heck of a nice guy. Your wife is a great cook and your son is a nice young man. Looing forward to gettin mine done I want to shoot it. Paul
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: Stringman on February 26, 2013, 11:08:28 am
Nice meeting you too Paul. You guys got a nice group started there. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Scott
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 26, 2013, 07:31:23 pm
Felt real bad for steve on that crack so today I knocked out a stave for him and I should get the belly for yet another bow. This one is Cleeeeeeeeeaaaaaan! No school due to snow and I could not run the band saw so just hit with glue a stuck it in the house.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: jr 2bow on February 26, 2013, 08:31:12 pm
I think he will like that stave, it looks like its nice has some nice waves to it 
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 27, 2013, 07:44:11 pm
Paul came over and helped me run steve's stave through the saw. He should be set by Sat. Steve's bow is in Paul's left hand and my new lever bow is in his right. The guy with the grey hair is me.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: jr 2bow on February 27, 2013, 09:17:56 pm
 They should make nice bows. Steve is going to be happy he is that close to tiller shouldn't take long. Happy to be able to help you like that John its the leasr I can do for you showing &helping me with mine. Paul
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: randman on February 27, 2013, 09:56:29 pm
Looks like a lot of fun! Yeah that chrono shot is real interesting. The bottom limb is back to brace but the top is still movin and the string is loose and flacid. Very cool,
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 28, 2013, 11:14:33 am
Sat. Looks like it is going to be a lot of fun ...Tim, Cody, and Leroy maybe, are coming over (guys from first bow class). Paul, Tom, and Steve will be making some final building on their first working bows. We are possibly going to get a visit from Gun Doc and Beadman. It's going to be a real great time. I think the weather should be nice enough to shoot some bows. I am really looking forward to the weekend. So our band will be 9 anyone else what to come?
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on February 28, 2013, 11:16:46 am
Forgot to say that snaky bow is going to get some attention also.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: jr 2bow on March 01, 2013, 08:05:18 am
sounds like a bussy day you have planed as far as work and play going on sat. im one of the lucky guys that only live 10mins. away darn the luck hope to get that bow done and see if i can hit air if not a target lol see you sat Paul
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on March 02, 2013, 10:28:05 pm
Here are a couple picks from the day. Paul finished tillering his wonderful bow.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: iowabow on March 02, 2013, 10:46:36 pm
We showed the group how to split logs. Also Josh shot his hackberry bow for the first time...man is that bow light. I blew up the snaky bow at 20inches and it had a perfect tiller going.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: randman on March 02, 2013, 10:57:12 pm
You bunch of guys are just having too much fun! Sorry to hear about the snakey bow. I was lookin forward to seein that thing.
Title: Re: more work with the guys
Post by: jr 2bow on March 03, 2013, 10:34:32 am
that was a fun day. you know some great guys john, they helped me out allot, josh and ed are a couple nice and funny guys. so nice to finally shoot my first selfbow and my first bow for a long time want to thank you for your help now the finnish sanding and shapping the handle, i will be ready to make another bow and help you at your next class. hope your dad is doin k