Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Danzn Bar on February 12, 2013, 08:48:48 pm
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I have used the push / pull method on some bows, but some bows (recurves/statics) and heavy poundage bows that are very difficult to do. I think the stringer with one cup over the tip and a rubber grip on the top of the other limb some distance from the tip is not good on a self bow because of the different stress on the limbs when stringing. Do you guys use? do you use different stringing technique for different bow types? What are your comments?
Thanks,
DB
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I do the step through method
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I use a stringer with leather cups on each end.
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Push/pull method for me. And if it is to strong to string that way I got no business making it.
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Roy,
I've thought about that but the tips need to be longer past the string nocks to do that. I'm thinking of doing that on my next few bows.
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OO,
I'm going to have to look you up at the classic this year so you can show me how to do that with a recurve or static.
Thanks
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I'd be happy to meet you but you might want to find someone else to show you how to string a recurve or static. I don't have any of those.......yet.
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I push/pull all of mine, statics to.
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Push pull. Mine are all straight bows.
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OK..........I quess I'll have to look you up Pearl.
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Push/pull. Straight and recurves
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I push /pull mine
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I use a stringer and shape my nocks to fit it. Jawge
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I usually use double nocks on both ends with a stringer (see picture). If not, I'll use the step through method.
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/Second%20BBO/HPIM5296.jpg)
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Push/Pull
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Push/pull unless I'm giving my self a hernia and then I'll use a stringer. I have both one with a leather cup on one end and I have one with the rubber pad. I share your trepidation about the rubber pad but it hasn't caused a problem yet. I mainly use it for bows at early brace during the tillering stage. I think the potential for damage is less at that point... I think.
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Pushpull for self and longbows....stringer for recurves.
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I usually use double nocks on both ends with a stringer (see picture). If not, I'll use the step through method.
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/Second%20BBO/HPIM5296.jpg)
This is basically what I do too. If a bow is overly heavy, sometimes I will use my knee against the handle, or right above the handle, and push the bow. That can easy hurt a bow if you aren't super careful, I don't like to do that if I don't have to. A bow around 72" - 78", I can only use a stringer or the knee thing, only because of the length makes the step through impossible. Sometimes I will make a manchu style static recurve, and will have to string it like a manchu horn bow. Over all, I always prefer to use a stringer if in anyway possible, it is healthier and safer for the bow and you. You should never use the push pull method with a recurve, you could easily whop yourself in the eye.
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Push/pull
If you use the double nocks, you only have to make double nocks on the upper limb. You can put the stringer loop over the string in the nock groove on the other end...on most bows.
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I saw a good one on here somewhere that the guy was pushing back on the limb and pulling on the handle....Yikes.!! I do it reverse push on the handle and pull on the top limb. At least if you slip the limb won't smack your Noggin..... ::) Watch out for pinching the pinkys..
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Agreed with 4est Trekker, file a notch in top tip and use a leather cup on bottom limb don't look too shabby.
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Step Thru unless it's a lighter bow (<65#) then i'll use push pull unless knots block the string.
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Push /pull on most.Static/heavy bow or recurves I use a stringer,I have some with a very small cup on the top limb side that works very well. Designed after the black widow stringer,it won't cover most string groves that I make. :)
Pappy
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Step through very carefully....
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Push / Pull unless I just can't pull that much weight, (not a problem with any of my own bows), and a couple I've had to use the double cup long string on my tiller tree. I had a buddy that made a couple War Bows that were just too TOO much for push / pull.
OneBow
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Push/pull for shorter bows up to 80#, and I cut a sringing groove in the top nock for heavy and longer bows >80#. Never step through. Stringer is absolutely the safest option, but DON"T use one with the little leather boots on each end. These are bad. You WILL break a tip off eventually.
I just use a longer string as the bracing string, put the string loop in the bottom nock, the stringing string on top of that and then the other end of the stringing string in the top stringing groove, step on the middle, pull it up and place the top loop in the top nock. Done.
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step thru.
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I'm a fairly strong guy (I can put out 50 pushups without too much difficulty), but I've never been able to do push/pull. I'm pretty sure its because I'm not doing it right. I know its better for bows than step through so if yall have any advice it'd be appreciated.
In the mean time, step through is what I've been using.
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Push/pull
If you use the double nocks, you only have to make double nocks on the upper limb. You can put the stringer loop over the string in the nock groove on the other end...on most bows.
Duh didn't think about that. I've been putting double nocks for a while now, just so much safer and easier on the bow imo. Haven't tried that on a recurve though!
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Thanks guys for all the replys, I like the stringing grove idea on the top limb tip. I'm going to try that on my next recurve or static.
I've talked with too many old traditional guys that had big time issues with the step through method.
Plus most of the time my brace height is only about 6 to 6 1/2" and I'd never get my big old leg out of it. :)
Thanks again,
DB
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Thanks guys for all the replys, I like the stringing grove idea on the top limb tip. I'm going to try that on my next recurve or static.
I've talked with too many old traditional guys that had big time issues with the step through method.
Plus most of the time my brace height is only about 6 to 6 1/2" and I'd never get my big old leg out of it. :)
Thanks again,
DB
I don;t like the step thru method, always seem to get off balance, because afraid of breaking a limb.
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If customers use step through on any of my bows, the 2 year warranty is void.
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If customers use step through on any of my bows, the 2 year warranty is void.
adb- can you help me understand why? Not arguing I sincerely want to know.
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I use push/pull on straighter bows and stringers on my recurves.
I have seen too many bows ruined by stepthrough,mostly fg bows but twisting cant be good whatever material.
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If customers use step through on any of my bows, the 2 year warranty is void.
adb- can you help me understand why? Not arguing I sincerely want to know.
Issues with limb twist while bracing using step through. This is a BAD method for LBs, and not much better for RCs IMHO.
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If customers use step through on any of my bows, the 2 year warranty is void.
adb- can you help me understand why? Not arguing I sincerely want to know.
Issues with limb twist while bracing using step through. This is a BAD method for LBs, and not much better for RCs IMHO.
Ah. I see. Hmmm. Guess I need to learn how to use a stringer. Thanks.
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I use a stringer on all my glass bows. My ELB's with horn nocks don't have stringing grooves, so they get the step through method and I'm careful to bend them evenly/as straightly as possible. My warbow has stringing nocks, but I often use step through on it too.