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Title: im gonna go crazy!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 11, 2013, 07:42:49 pm
arghhhhhhhhh.  >:D just when i thought my troubles were over as far as finding good bow wood was concerned. ok so i give this guy a call whos number i got from a guy who makes bows at my archery club, i ask him what wood can you give me and says he has a log 60" long made of... YEW!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dat this point im jumping around really happy. he then gives me a call today saying "hi there i cut that log down into 3 20" long peices so it will be easier for you to take home" arghhhhhhh that was sooo anoying i could have got 2 nice bows out of that log and he ruined it :-[ man i really must be more clear about what i want. although you would have thought that scince he gives wood to my freind at the club wood for bows that he would have kept it in one peice for me. oh well never mind :embarassed: SS
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Post by: bubby on February 11, 2013, 07:51:16 pm
boy, it sucks to be you today >:D
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 03:50:28 am
yep as if my deflex stave wasent bad enough i get this call :-[
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 01:10:36 pm
well looks like things are starting to brighten up as far as my stave search is concerned. i went down to the guy who cut up my yew to see what else he had, most was pine and twisted oak (which wouldent of been that bad thinking about it now) anyway so i spot this bit of wood around 40" long with a wide diamitre and so i look at the growth rings and i could not beleve my eyes :o :o :o :o :o they are so thick and it's 15 yrs old (like me) and the thickest ring is 1/2" thick and there all around that. i do have to admit it does have some knots which im not proud of (not as many as my christmas tree bow.) but i immagine it's big enough to split into 4 quaters and if i splice 2 together and the other 2 together then i have 2 bows ;D so i ask the guy how much and he says take it i cut it only last week, which means i  got to wait a year until i can use it. i will upload a vid as pics just ar'nt working for me right now and then ill upload it here.
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Post by: BowEd on February 12, 2013, 01:21:05 pm
What kind of wood is it does he know.
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Post by: DarkSoul on February 12, 2013, 01:38:09 pm
Most wood species that potentially have half an inch wide growth rings, are useless for bows. It is imperative you figure out the wood species, to prevent a second Christmas tree bow.
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 01:40:21 pm
no thats the one thing we don't know but the guy from my club says he's made bows from it before. im hoping someone on here can tell me what it is, im uploading a video of it now as we speak the log is 7" in diamatre and i have not got a clue on how im going to split this thing as i don't have the right kind off tools to do it. but im uploading the video of it as we speak so will post that when it's done ;D SS
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 01:41:42 pm
Most wood species that potentially have half an inch wide growth rings, are useless for bows. It is imperative you figure out the wood species, to prevent a second Christmas tree bow.

opps. there actualy only 1/4" thick. SS
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 01:45:04 pm
and heres the video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibv14h3yQLQ

SS
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Post by: Buckeye Guy on February 12, 2013, 01:58:26 pm
Maple !
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 02:00:54 pm
it's maple? horray finnaly a good bow wood ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  (i think, anyone ever used maple?) SS
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Post by: ionicmuffin on February 12, 2013, 02:47:41 pm
the color of the bark is not the same as my maple but its the same texture.
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Post by: rossfactor on February 12, 2013, 02:56:26 pm
Yep, I'd say it's a maple. Most maples can make a bow, but they vary considerably in quality.  Meaning you'd make some maple bows wider and longer than you would others. 

If you can't figure it out, I'd keep her at least 2" wide at the fades, pyramid style limbs and 68" long. I'm assuming your going to try and splice billets?  Do a search in the build along section for how this is done.

Gabe
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Post by: WillS on February 12, 2013, 03:07:49 pm
Hard to tell with the video, but as you're splitting and splicing/billeting anyway, there might be a way of using that s-shape to give you a natural D/R bow. 

Looks like it has a nice natural reflexed end, so use the end of the log sitting on your floor for both limb tips.  I'd leave the snaky bow profile until you know what you're doing and have a few bows under your belt.

I only glanced at the video and I may be seeing something that isn't there regarding the D/R idea.
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Post by: danny f on February 12, 2013, 03:58:39 pm
hi mate, i have a piece of ash board  here if you want it, it is 70" long and 2" wide i will take it to a pyramid style if you want and get it to rough bow thickness , and send it to you to tiller and finish off. i will glue on the block for the riser,  for you unless you want to do it. the grain is good it  just runs out slightly at one end but i dont think it will affect it, but you could back if you didnt feel right. if you want it i will see how much postage is and you pay me postage and i will send it to you i dont want owt for the wood. at least you will have something to get you going instead of messing around with old christmas trees lol.
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Post by: danny f on February 12, 2013, 04:01:45 pm
forgot to say at the moment this board is full 2" wide  for most of the length, and the last 15" is straight tapered to half inch tips. if you would prefer it left like this.
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 04:04:21 pm
hi mate, i have a piece of ash board  here if you want it, it is 70" long and 2" wide i will take it to a pyramid style if you want and get it to rough bow thickness , and send it to you to tiller and finish off. i will glue on the block for the riser,  for you unless you want to do it. the grain is good it  just runs out slightly at one end but i dont think it will affect it, but you could back if you didnt feel right. if you want it i will see how much postage is and you pay me postage and i will send it to you i dont want owt for the wood. at least you will have something to get you going instead of messing around with old christmas trees lol.

i will definatly take you up on that offer thanks ;D

Yep, I'd say it's a maple. Most maples can make a bow, but they vary considerably in quality.  Meaning you'd make some maple bows wider and longer than you would others. 

If you can't figure it out, I'd keep her at least 2" wide at the fades, pyramid style limbs and 68" long. I'm assuming your going to try and splice billets?  Do a search in the build along section for how this is done.

Gabe

will do the search, and yes ill be splittlig this log into billits. thanks

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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 04:06:16 pm
forgot to say at the moment this board is full 2" wide  for most of the length, and the last 15" is straight tapered to half inch tips. if you would prefer it left like this.

yep leave it in bow dimensions with the bow ready to be tillered for around 30# and if you can glue on the risor block that would also help. think you could post some more pics?
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Post by: danny f on February 12, 2013, 04:12:28 pm
i will post some more tomorrow when its light i cant get decent pics while its dark. so do you want it straight tapered from the 2" wide at the fades to half " tips or full 2"width up to the last 15" then straight tapered to half " tips they are both bow dimesions. just different styles.  i prefer pyramid  straight tapered from the fades to half " tips. its upto you.???
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 04:39:36 pm
i will post some more tomorrow when its light i cant get decent pics while its dark. so do you want it straight tapered from the 2" wide at the fades to half " tips or full 2"width up to the last 15" then straight tapered to half " tips they are both bow dimesions. just different styles.  i prefer pyramid  straight tapered from the fades to half " tips. its upto you.???

i would like the pyramid dimension if thats cool with you, do you have my adress? thanks. SS
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Post by: danny f on February 12, 2013, 04:42:28 pm
send it me by pm and i will see how much postage is and let you know.
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Post by: Squirrelslayer on February 12, 2013, 05:58:31 pm
ok so im not sure how im going to split this thing but im going to hopefully go for a spliced R/D design. any opinions?