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Title: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: CherokeeKC on February 11, 2013, 01:12:41 pm
I just bought a new house and im setting up my garage/workshop.  I have a main garage with big 1.5car door amd then a room off side that will be my main workshop.  Then i also have a lean to type shed built on outside of that room that is only accessible from outside.  It has cedar siding on it and is not sealed tight (insects can get in).

Would you guys put any staves in the outside shed and risk insect damage?  And if i did would they dry out slower since its not temperature regulated.  Im not sure if i want to take up workshop space with stave rack but will gladly if that is absolutely best for them.
Can some of you post pics of your stave racks for drying/storing? 
Any comments/pics are greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: Pat B on February 11, 2013, 01:19:05 pm
All of my wood is in my basement shop. It is pretty dry down there except for mid summer. Storing wood in an outside shed is OK but you will have to monater it to be sure bugs don't get it or spray it with insecticide.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 11, 2013, 01:25:02 pm
I wouldnt leave anything outside, ever. Just my spin. Mine are leaned up against the back wall of my shop in the basement. No bugs, lower humidity and no bugs, plus no bugs.
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Post by: dwardo on February 11, 2013, 01:35:57 pm
I store the larger stuff in my garage away from bugs.
If you put your mind to it then its surprising where you can hide them in the house without the missus noticing.
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: Keenan on February 11, 2013, 01:41:41 pm
I store the larger stuff in my garage away from bugs.
If you put your mind to it then its surprising where you can hide them in the house without the missus noticing.

Preach it brother!

Allot depends on where you live and the type of wood. I have no problem with yew outside and under roof shed but juniper will get the bugs if you don't remove the bark.
  If removing bark most bugs will not be a problem. Just keep dry and air movement helps the curing process.
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: CherokeeKC on February 11, 2013, 02:23:17 pm
Ok thanks guys.  Looks like i will just build a rack in the garage.  Can anyone post pics of their racks?  Just wanted some ideas on design for the wood to have air flow around them
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: Keenan on February 11, 2013, 02:47:06 pm
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_0298_zps0aa1935e.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_0300_zps9abb221e.jpg)
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: k-hat on February 11, 2013, 02:58:08 pm
 :o Showoff

I thought i was doing ok with my 8 or 9 staves and a few billets ;)
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: CherokeeKC on February 11, 2013, 03:37:43 pm
Lol yeh really!
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: osage outlaw on February 11, 2013, 03:46:09 pm
I built this one a couple years ago.  My workshop is small and storage space is limited.  Its on wheels and the back corner is anchored to the outside leg of the bench so it pivots there.  I roll the one side out when I want to get a stave.  When I push it back it sets several inches back from the front of the bench so it isn't in the way at all.  I made the mistake of using to small of wheels the first time.  I had to unload it and put some heavy duty swivel casters on it.  I put some thin slats of wood in between layers of staves to allow air flow.   

I also have some 4" PVC pieces mounted on the inside of the bench leg.  I store my arrow shafts there.  You can see them sticking out a little.  I have to take advantage of every little space I can.


(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC15057.jpg)

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC14477.jpg)
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 11, 2013, 04:11:04 pm
Quit showing off Clint........its very unbecoming of you.......that goes double for you Keenan.....
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Post by: Keenan on February 11, 2013, 04:16:19 pm
Clint's looks more like the vaults in Fort Knocks. Look at all that gold :o
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 11, 2013, 04:18:54 pm
Straight, clean, knot free, bark free and ready to rock. Typical Clint. I send him a pic Saturday of a sweet bow Im working on and all he says is, "You need to clean your shop up". Thats it?
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: Ifrit617 on February 11, 2013, 04:40:32 pm
Straight, clean, knot free, bark free and ready to rock. Typical Clint. I send him a pic Saturday of a sweet bow Im working on and all he says is, "You need to clean your shop up". Thats it?

LMAO that awesome. Hahaha.

Jon
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Post by: bow101 on February 11, 2013, 04:46:14 pm
Outlaw nice selection of staves ya have. Brilliant idea for storage..... 8)
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 11, 2013, 04:46:21 pm
He is just lucky he leaves 7 hours aways Fritzy.
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Post by: osage outlaw on February 11, 2013, 05:25:36 pm
Pearly, I told you the bow looked OK  :-\        ;D     

And my shop is messy, I just can't stand a dirty floor. 
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: CherokeeKC on February 11, 2013, 08:39:41 pm
Thanks for the help guys.  I just discovered some mold starting to grow on arrow shafts I had bundled standing in the corner.  Has anyone ever dealt with mold in their garage?  It doesnt seem to be growing on walls anywhere that I can tell.  However, this house was a foreclosure and when I ripped stuff out of the kitchen where mold was a problem, I stored some things in that side room of the garage.  And during August or so the whole garage flooded with 2-3inches of water (another whole story lol) and there was mold growing on everything.  It has been dry for several months and I fixed the problem that made it flood.  I cleaned everything out of that room and took to dump and swept and cleaned up everything.  There is exposed openings of the block on inside of room.  Maybe there are still spores in there?  I am not sure what to do.  I am thinking about pulling everything out of the room, which wont be the end of the world cause I dont have any shelves or anything built in there yet, and spraying down the whole room with a mixture of bleach and water.  What do you guys think?  Also how should I kill the mold on the arrows or do I just rub it off?  I will take pics tom.
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: Stringman on February 11, 2013, 09:01:35 pm
Just watched a show over the weekend which recommended not using bleach/water. They said first get it dry then kill or clean up with household cleaner. But "dry" is the key.

Scott
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: osage outlaw on February 11, 2013, 09:01:52 pm
get some airflow in there
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Post by: Pat B on February 11, 2013, 09:04:09 pm
Mold likes still, moist air. Washing with bleach water will kill the mold but you have to get rid of the moisture. A fan running just moving the air around will help a lot.
  A trick that David Knight told me about is get a box fan(about $15 at walmart) and a 24"x24" a/c air filter and tape it on the intake side of the fan. It will filter out the mold spores and will help keep the dust down too. David used it for filtering dusty air. I keep one going in my basement all summer.
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Post by: Weylin on February 11, 2013, 09:35:17 pm
Plus, the bleach will kill like 99% of the mold but the 1% it doesn't kill is will produce more mold that is resistant to being killed and then you're just breeding super mold. Dryness and airflow are the two keys to beating mold. It's a huge pain in the ass and near impossible to make it disappear completely.
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: CherokeeKC on February 11, 2013, 09:56:44 pm
Thanks for the advice everyone.  I think I will put a fan in there as suggested and also a dehumidifier.  Will this affect any arrows or staves drying?  Like making them check more or have any adverse outcomes?
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: Jodocus on February 12, 2013, 02:11:59 am
Get your stuff up, away from the floor. Moisture is much higher one foot above than fiv feet above the floor. I bet you had mold on the lower end of your bundles, no?
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: CherokeeKC on February 12, 2013, 07:57:34 am
Jodovus the mold was lower down probably last ft or two...i will double check this evening when i get home
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Post by: bhenders on February 12, 2013, 10:30:56 am
I just discovered some mold starting to grow on arrow shafts side of room....

Clean up with bleach and keep everything dry but...

BEST WAY TO KILL MOLD:  Get some 20 Mule Team Borax or generic Borax Laundry soap.  Make up a solution ( 1 cup per gal) and wipe or spray everywhere with it.  It kills mold and the spores.  Once you do that, you should never have another mold problem again.
From the site below:
You can mix borax with vinegar and water safely. This solution can be more effective at killing mold. Some people also add salt.
However, mixing borax with bleach is not recommended. Bleach often produces dangerous gases when mixed with other products (eg bleach and ammonia produces toxic gas).

see this site (non-commercial)  http://blacktoxicmolds.com/borax-kill-mold.php

here's another one with various methods..

http://blackmold.awardspace.com/kill-remove-mold.html

I know this because I had a mold problem in my basement.  I did the borax treatment and it never came back.  Note: I also added baking soda to help with the moldy smell.
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: Jodocus on February 12, 2013, 10:53:48 am
Here's my rack, just for all you visual people. I showed you mine now show me yours  ;D
@Keenan: It sure must feel great to walk up and down those staves..
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: PrimitiveTim on February 12, 2013, 01:44:57 pm
I just throw them in the rafters of the barn wherever they will fit
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: CherokeeKC on February 12, 2013, 02:07:52 pm
Thanks bhender that is really helpful...I will probably do that and also use fan and dehumidifier.  so you didnt have to rinse or wash off the borax solution once dry?  Also did you spray the floor walls and ceiling?

Thanks for the pics jodocus!
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: Pat B on February 12, 2013, 02:23:36 pm
You can wipe off the mold with a damp rag. If the conditions in your basement improve it should keep the mold at bay.
  Mold spores are in the air all around us and only manifests itself when conditions are right.
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Post by: danny f on February 12, 2013, 02:43:26 pm
i keep them in the attic (loft) mainly but i have sneaked them under the bed,  in the boiler cupboard and any other corners that i can get away with. >:D
Title: Re: Lets see your stave racks!
Post by: CherokeeKC on February 12, 2013, 08:44:16 pm
Thanks again guys for the help.  I have good news :).  I did a thorough search of the stuff in the side room of the garage and those arrows are the only thing I see with mold starting to grow on them.  Maybe they got it from being in a storage unit for a year.  But under the circumstances of me having all the moldy stuff in that room for 3-4 months I just assumed it came from there.  I cleaned up the arrows and will keep some air flowing and hopefully the mold will stay away!