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Title: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Bryce on December 01, 2012, 08:53:13 pm
While Iam waiting for my real bow wood to dry >:D
Steve I mean seabiscuit I MEAN seaBASS, sent me a nice piece of horse apple to try. Now Ive helped build 2 other hedge bows but never spent much time with the wood. So this piece is THE first osage to be molded by my hands. The wood has nice tight rings, hard and made my scrapping arm sore.
I left to sapwood as a riser in the handle and also at the nocks. After working the wood one night it was bright yella, the next morning to my surprise it had turned orange! No complaint there.
I took it kind of slow and it's true it doesn't take a lot of this wood to make a bow.
She came in right on target and took almost no set, despite my aggressive tiller technique.
She shoots smooth and surprisingly quick.

Anyways, I hope I did you Osage guys proud.
Here she is.

63" NtN
1.5 wide to .5 tips
Black on black John Strunk handle wrap.
A perfect 50#@28"

Thanks for lookin :D

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Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: ionicmuffin on December 01, 2012, 08:56:30 pm
Wow, just ninjaed your way through... dang! nice job!
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Keenan on December 01, 2012, 08:59:17 pm
 Bryce that is exceptional. Very nice detail on the handle wrap and spot on tiller with a great profile. You did that Sage proud. Even if it isn't a PNW wood >:D
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Weylin on December 01, 2012, 09:00:40 pm
Sweet, Bryce! I really like the sapwood riser, haven't seen that one before. Can't wait to see it drawn. I also love John Strunk's wraps. I can't seem to get away from them.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: steve b. on December 01, 2012, 09:02:40 pm
Looks really nice.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: sharpend60 on December 01, 2012, 09:05:24 pm
Nice work!
I like the sap wood nocks.
Are they gonna hold up?
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Will H on December 01, 2012, 09:05:36 pm
That is one nice lookin bow! Love the sapwood accents!! VERY well done fella! I noticed your last name is Ott..any relation to Tim Ott??  ???
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: killir duck on December 01, 2012, 09:09:53 pm
cool bow i really like the sapwood on the handle and tips
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: seabass on December 01, 2012, 09:39:57 pm
seabiscuit really likes it.that is why you should send it to him.i am still liking the sapwood that you left on brother.you did an awesome job.you still have my address right?lol
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: JonW on December 01, 2012, 09:46:44 pm
I really like this bow. Looks like you could shoot it all day long.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Trapper Rob on December 01, 2012, 10:11:49 pm
Nice bow
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: okie64 on December 01, 2012, 10:20:21 pm
 Very nice bow Bryce! Handle wrap and sapwood looks awesome. Not bad for inferior wood, hehehe ;)
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Shaun on December 01, 2012, 10:30:00 pm
We might let you try another piece since you did so well with that one. I left sapwood handle and tips on a bow with wax finish and they turned black with time. Will be interested how it colors if at all under gloss finish.  Good work for a Left Coaster - heck, would be proud of that in the Midwest.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: missilemaster on December 01, 2012, 11:00:28 pm
Nice bow there! Like the way you left the sapwood on the handle.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: SLIMBOB on December 01, 2012, 11:11:20 pm
Very nice.  Spot on tiller.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: toomanyknots on December 01, 2012, 11:16:36 pm
Beautiful bow. I love how you left the sapwood on just the handle. Stunningly beautiful. Hehe, I bet you 5 bucks that was one of the osage staves I sold steve a while back.  ;D A sister stave (or brother stave, it was a decent sized family) went to a guy in norway, who made a flight bow out of one of em, and according to him got 357 yards on his first shot with it. Good stuff that batch.

EDIT: I didn't catch that you left the sapwood on the nocks as well, they looked so much like overlays! Very slick! Never seen that before...
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Carson (CMB) on December 02, 2012, 12:30:48 am
Bryce, that is all around gorgeous!  Like everybody else, I really like the sapwood riser and tips.  If they do end up turning black, that will look just as great!  Beautiful.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Gordon on December 02, 2012, 02:25:44 am
That's really cool what you did with the sapwood. That is a great looking bow all around.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Bryce on December 02, 2012, 04:01:40 am
Muffin, thanks man.

Keenan, I'm saving the good stuff for a rainy day....wait....

Weylin I know what you mean I can't go back to any other grip wrap. It's attractive and feels good in the hand.

Thank you Steve.

Thanks sharp, yeah unlike yew the sapwood is pretty hard. Once I'm done with some more of this yella wood I'm gonna move onto that juniper you handed me the other day. How was the drive back to New Mexico?

Will H, thank you! No I don't know a Tim Ott.

Thank you duck.

Seabiscuit, I do t think I'm gonna part with this bow any time soon. Yep still have your address for future trades :D glad you like it.

Jon, thanks. It does have a pretty smooth draw.

Thanks Rob!

Okie64, hahaha come on man! I never said it was inferior lol if we look back on that thread you will see I stood up for osage haha, but no it's not bad at all ;)

Shaun, yeah I might try another. I got 4 staves left we'll see what comes around. It turned black!!!?? I used 4 coats Tru-oil we'll see what happeneds. Pfft! come on you know all the best bow makers live on the west side! >:D

Cody, thanks man. Loved your lever bow, I might try something similar.

Thanks Slim!

TMK, that's awesome this bow might have a sister in Norway. I've never built a flight bow but is is on my "bowyers bucket list" thanks for the compliment.

Thanks CMB! I hope they don't turn black :(

Thanks Gordo!
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: simson on December 02, 2012, 05:10:02 am
stunning bow, very nice details, esp. love the handle
I'm missing the fd pic ...

simson
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: LJB on December 02, 2012, 05:59:23 am
Wow, very beautifull Bow and nice details. Missing the fd as well :(
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 02, 2012, 08:40:51 am
Uuuuuuhhhh.......hhhhmmmmm.......? You know the rules Brycey........If it iant bowing it aint a bow!
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: rps3 on December 02, 2012, 08:58:39 am
Those are some tight rings, I know what you mean about being sore from scraping. I developed tendonitis once from scraping too much, thankfully rest fixed it.

Beautiful bow, like others have said, the sapwood is all that. Be sure and post again later in time to let us know if the sapwood changes color at all.

I echo the cries for a full draw shot.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: lesken2011 on December 02, 2012, 09:21:46 am
Real nice yella bow. Nice curves too! Still waitin on that last curve...you know...full draw!! ;D
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: blackhawk on December 02, 2012, 09:31:48 am
Why am I hearing the jeopardy theme song?  ???  :laugh:
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Badly Bent on December 02, 2012, 11:35:41 am
That's one gorgeous looking osage bow Pinecone. I've made 16-20 from osage and none of mine looked that nice, you need to use this wood more often friend because it's apparent your can do right by it. Now lets see that FD cause I'm sure it will be as pretty as the rest of the pics. :)
Greg
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Bryce on December 02, 2012, 12:42:13 pm
Know ones around to take the picture. I'll try and post it this afternoon.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Bryce on December 02, 2012, 10:54:33 pm
Thank you Simson!

LJB, thank you!

Haha I know Chris I'm trying to get someone to take the picture but the woman was out spending my money all day today... And it gets dark around 4:30 so I don't have too much time.

Rps3, shoulder and forearm took a beating but that's alright it was worth it in the end.
Hasn't turned black yet :)

Thank you lesken!

Peer pressure! Haha thanks blackbird!

Badly bent, thank you very much. You just gotta let the wood talk to yah :) and I'm sure you have some beautiful osage bows in your collection:)


Sorry no full draw yet if I have to I'll take the shot in the house later this evening.....
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: dwardo on December 03, 2012, 06:48:52 am
Stunner. Love the profile.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Pappy on December 03, 2012, 11:09:40 am
Beautiful,looking forward to the full draw picture, finish work and brace tiller looks excellent. The sap wood left on is cool also.  :)
    Pappy
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Parnell on December 03, 2012, 11:30:05 am
Sure is handsome.  Great to see little differences in bows every now and then like your sap wood handle.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: Sidewinder on December 03, 2012, 11:55:50 am
Beautiful interpretation with the inclusion of the sapwood. Love it. If you keep it out of the sun most of the time it will take longer to turn dark. I don't think it will matter what you finish it with there will be no way to keep osage from turning dark over time other than to keep it out of the sun when your not using it. We can at least enjoy the contrast for now. I think you may have just started a trend. Next time I harvest some osage I will be leaving some sap wood on the tips and the handle area of a few staves. 
  Now then.....we want full draw....we want full draw.  Lol    Danny
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve
Post by: sharpend60 on December 03, 2012, 03:22:49 pm
The drive back was great.
I had a buncha bow wood piled in my sleeping quarters but hey, I can compromise. About half of my VM had some gnarly bug damage. It didnt notice till I got home :(
I now have enough dry Ocean Spray for years...

I agree with another poster, you may have started a trend.
I just got my first osage stave too, I was thinking about leaving the sap wood on all together, tight rings on that one. Or I may just go your route.

Either way very fine work.
And congrats on the deer earlier this year.

Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Bryce on December 03, 2012, 06:29:26 pm
Full draw is up on original page.

Thank you dwardo

Thanks pappy

Thanks Parnell, I always try and do some sort of art. Then someone informed me that my bows where art just a different medium other than paint and pencil. That's why it's 'Artisan' work. Not craftsman work :)

Thank you sidewinder, I thought, why glue on overlays a risers when it's already right there in nature.

Sharp, the scenery was probably awesome! I'm not against starting a trend :)
Sorry to hear about the VM:(
You need to post that gambles oak bow! That's a beauty for sure!

Take all the sapwood off, except where you want it. From what I've been told its useless weight.

Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: RyanY on December 03, 2012, 06:31:11 pm
Love the use of the sapwood and great job on the finish. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Zion on December 03, 2012, 06:48:48 pm
Yes! The full draw!! Sexy curves right there  8)
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 03, 2012, 07:04:47 pm
Ahhhh yes, nice BOW Brycey boy!
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Keenan on December 03, 2012, 08:05:50 pm
Awesome Bryce, Great looking full draw and tiller looks great. Well done
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Arrowind on December 03, 2012, 09:41:51 pm
Love everything about that bow! very creative, very well done!  GOOD JOB!
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: koan on December 03, 2012, 10:24:40 pm
Very Nice! I'll go on record now.... Thats a BOM winner...
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: blackhawk on December 03, 2012, 11:03:37 pm
I've seen worse  :P  :laugh:
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: SLIMBOB on December 03, 2012, 11:18:11 pm
Really sweet lookin' bow!
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Bryce on December 04, 2012, 12:26:21 am
Hey thank all of you very much for the kind words.

Blackbird, IS THERE NO PLEASING YOU!!? J/k:P
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: dragonman on December 04, 2012, 12:59:18 pm
very nice bow...well done!!!
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Bowman on December 04, 2012, 02:59:47 pm
A real beauty. Awesome tiller and I like the handle area. :-)
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Bryce on December 04, 2012, 11:07:41 pm
Thank you gentlemen :D
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: soy on December 08, 2012, 01:06:39 am
Very nice !!!I need to learn how to do that style handle wrap ;)
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: coaster500 on December 08, 2012, 02:12:41 am
You nailed it Bryce !!!

Sweet shooter :)

Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Scaramouche on December 08, 2012, 03:55:51 am
I love the concentric sapwood rings moving out in the fades. Something so completely gorgeous about that.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: DGF on December 08, 2012, 04:53:58 am
I really like what you did with the sapwood on both the tips and grip. Great looking bow!

-Dan
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: BowEd on December 08, 2012, 09:18:20 am
Gorgeous Bryce.What do ya mean surprisingly quick.....LOL.Cool way to incorporate something different with the sapwood left on and your handle work really sets it off nice.That's why those Indians that made and shot hedge could double as weight lifters......LOL.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Dvshunter on December 08, 2012, 10:13:16 am
That's a sweet looking curve. I really like the sapwood looks too. I have made six osage sapwood bows and really likethe contrast after they darken. The deep red and cream colored white looks awesome . Congrats. On the new bow.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Bryce on December 08, 2012, 10:13:55 pm
Thanks guys

Gorgeous Bryce.What do ya mean surprisingly quick.....LOL.Cool way to incorporate something different with the sapwood left on and your handle work really sets it off nice.That's why those Indians that made and shot hedge could double as weight lifters......LOL.


Yeah I heard osage was a little slow, I haven't shot it through the chrono yet we'll see how it does :)
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: vinemaplebows on December 08, 2012, 11:37:59 pm
Bryce great work! I want to bring my O66 STHIL down for that maple...at least it looks like a burled up maple. ;)
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Bryce on December 08, 2012, 11:56:55 pm
STHIL!!?? That thing would end up breaking in half! Lol jk
What's in the picture is the skinny side:) of the burl.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: seabass on December 09, 2012, 01:00:12 am
i just saw the full draw.man you did that osage some justice.looks like i need to send you some more.great job buddy.get me a yew stave when you get the chance.we'll do another trade.
Title: Re: Osage Orange Recurve (Full Draw Added)
Post by: Bryce on December 09, 2012, 02:48:44 am
Man this yew list is long....up in the 20's
But I will hit you up next time I need some Steve. I likes the tight rings that make it that orange color:)
Thanks again!