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Title: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Dictionary on November 25, 2012, 06:30:19 pm
Here's a quick one. I searched but i didn't really find the answer i was looking for. I feel like i'm missing something.

I've been using eastern 2 fletch on my last 3 arrows.I'm having trouble with the front of the feathers pulling out of the wrapping. Feathers end up disappearing. I typically have used 3 feather fletch and wrapped down through the feathers but i can't do that with 2 fletch. I was wondering if anyone knows of any tricks to keep the feathers from pulling out other than smothering it with modern adhesives?
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: bowtarist on November 25, 2012, 07:33:57 pm
Make sure you get them wrapped good, and the transition smooth between feather and shaft, let dry for 24 hrs. and seal with a pitch varnish, made with dried pitch covered w/ alcohol or turpintine and allow to dry another 24 hrs if needed.  Sounds to me like your not getting enough wraps on or it's not tight.  The varnish is not primitive per se', but not store bought either.  Good luck, dp
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Tom Leemans on November 26, 2012, 01:01:30 pm
Check this guy's video out. It's how I wrap mine and it locks them in tight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7flDd7-OCk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7flDd7-OCk)
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Dictionary on November 26, 2012, 04:12:32 pm
Check this guy's video out. It's how I wrap mine and it locks them in tight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7flDd7-OCk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7flDd7-OCk)

Hmm...clever. No problems with the "hump" hitting the side of the bow?
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Tom Leemans on November 26, 2012, 04:46:20 pm
I shoot off a floppy arrarest with no issues at all. I think that end of the arrow paradoxes around it for the most part. I shoot cane shafts. One thing I've really noticed is how quiet the two fletch shoots.
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: CherokeeKC on November 27, 2012, 09:12:07 am
If u use real sinew it should draw up tight...what are you using to wrap feathers?
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Dictionary on November 27, 2012, 12:45:00 pm
Im beginning to use Artificial Sinew. I was just using some old thread for crafts.

I have No access to real sinew at this present time.
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Tom Leemans on November 27, 2012, 01:10:07 pm
You can soak some thin superglue into the thread or artificial sinew. I've been wrapping with silk floss from the embroidery store my wife goes to.
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Stalkingfox on November 27, 2012, 05:44:31 pm
I know your probably wanting to make this primitivly so I was wondering what you were using in your pine pitch. whether Its plain pitch or your adding the charcoal and some sort of fiber... A little odd but I use deer or rabbit droppings.
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Dictionary on November 27, 2012, 06:10:26 pm
I know your probably wanting to make this primitivly so I was wondering what you were using in your pine pitch. whether Its plain pitch or your adding the charcoal and some sort of fiber... A little odd but I use deer or rabbit droppings.

No i haven't moved to doing this primitively. Im using artificial sinew but i just feel i shouldn't try and solve every problem when it comes to arrowmaking with super glue....... O:)
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Stalkingfox on November 27, 2012, 06:14:31 pm
I totally agree.
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: madcrow on November 27, 2012, 11:28:29 pm
I had the same problem.  To solve it, instead of stripping the leading edge of teh feather where the wrap will be, just clip it close with some small scissors.  That will leave a little stubble instead of a smooth surface.  As for not having access, pm me your address and I will get some headed your way.
Title: Re: 2 fletch arrow feathers pulling away
Post by: Dictionary on November 28, 2012, 12:03:55 am
I had the same problem.  To solve it, instead of stripping the leading edge of teh feather where the wrap will be, just clip it close with some small scissors.  That will leave a little stubble instead of a smooth surface.  As for not having access, pm me your address and I will get some headed your way.

That's a great idea. So the little bits of feather left will create friction and keep the wraps from moving back.


Im going to try that, and more wraps plus pulling tighter i suppose and we'll see if that works!


Also i appreciate the offer of sinew, but i'm going to try and build a bunch of non primitive arrows first using just this artificial sinew and modern adhesives to bind the feathers and heads. Once i feel accomplished at this, i will tackle on using sinew,hide glue,pine pitch,etc. That way i'm not wasting natural materials that aren't as easily accessible for me while im still learning. Thank you though!