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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: RyanY on November 12, 2012, 05:59:59 pm

Title: Hickory Longbow
Post by: RyanY on November 12, 2012, 05:59:59 pm
Been busy but finally getting back to some bow making. This one's hickory, 68" long and 40#@28". 4" handle with 3" fades, 1.75" at the fades with a concave taper to 3/8" tips. The taper is almost pyramid like but is not a straight line to the tips and gives the limbs a full look that I really like. The cross section is trapped so the back is half the width of the belly. It is also heat treated and retains 1" of reflex. With the trapping and heat treating I think it's really a testament to hickory's strength in tension. Darkened with a walnut stain and white arrows just for looks. Hope you guys like it and thanks for looking. Sorry about the crappy pics.
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1569.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1570.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1571.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1572.jpg)
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Bowman on November 12, 2012, 06:03:56 pm
Thats a nice bow. Perfect tiller. A little whip ended?  I like that.  Awesome. :-) Fantastic artwork . Reminds me of the Holmegaard bow. :-)
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Zion on November 12, 2012, 06:09:53 pm
Awesome! Nice tiller and cool cosmetics  :D
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: blackhawk on November 12, 2012, 06:17:36 pm
Love that front profile with narrowed handle,n the unbraced says it all...a nice job Ryan...good to see ya work on wood again ;)
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Dvshunter on November 12, 2012, 06:51:13 pm
Nice bow. Ryan. I like the paint and stain..
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: H Rhodes on November 12, 2012, 09:01:38 pm
Awesome!  I bet that hickory stick has a long life.  Looks like a sweet shooter.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: steve b. on November 12, 2012, 09:09:10 pm
Doesn't get much better than that.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Onebowonder on November 12, 2012, 11:03:33 pm
This looks a lot like the profile you helped my son Wil cut out on his hickory stave at Mojam this year.  He was working on it again last weekend.  It's slow going as we don't get around to getting the tools out that often.  I'll be showing him this for inspiration!
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Knapper on November 12, 2012, 11:13:44 pm
Nice lines and sweet bend. Hickory has also been a favorite of mine  8) makes great bows!
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Cameroo on November 13, 2012, 01:10:52 am
That's a really nice looking design. 
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: gianluca100 on November 13, 2012, 04:07:12 am
Wow, that's bold: trapping the back by half and also heat treating the belly, I think that's the max you can get out of a selfbow and how tough hickory is...

Veeeeery nice bow!

How is the phisical weight of the bow? Did you get under the weihgts of Badgers bow weight table? Do you have more pics of the trapping?  :)

Ciao,
gian-luca
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: gianluca100 on November 13, 2012, 04:08:27 am
By the way, i forgot to mention: perfect tiller for the front view shape.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Pappy on November 13, 2012, 08:13:55 am
Very nice bow,should spit an arrow. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Badly Bent on November 13, 2012, 08:26:33 am
Really like that bow, great shape and style. Looks like one I would carry into the woods any day. Very nice.
Greg
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: lesken2011 on November 13, 2012, 09:01:40 am
Nice job on that hickory! I been stayin away from it since there is so much humidity down here, except for backings. I guess I'll have to try the heat treating thing on some after seein that good lookin thang. ;)
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: RyanY on November 13, 2012, 04:33:50 pm
Thanks for the kind words guys!

gianluca100, I think the bow came in right at expected weight at 20.5oz but someone who knows how to calculate projected mass better than I could tell you that for sure. I don't have any pics of the trapping but if you have any questions about it feel free to ask.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: PaulN/KS on November 13, 2012, 07:40:34 pm
Fine looking bow Ryan ! Good to see you taking the time to work on bows.
You still getting that nice clean Michigan hickory from the same woods?
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: toomanyknots on November 13, 2012, 08:12:01 pm
Beautiful bow. I love the unbraced profile, it's perfect!
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Dictionary on November 13, 2012, 08:18:12 pm
I bet it has a nice smooth draw
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: RyanY on November 14, 2012, 12:49:58 am
Thanks guys!

Paul, All the hickory I've been using for the past three years has come from one single tree and I still have quite a bit left!  ;D
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Parnell on November 14, 2012, 01:08:42 pm
Love this one.  It's ironic for me, I've got a stave coming that I was thinking of a similar design.  Really sweet bow, any shot at better pictures?
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: RyanY on November 14, 2012, 07:40:11 pm
Here's a few more pics to show the limb profile and the trapping. The arrows closely follow the width of the back of the bow before it angles off to the sides. Thanks again guys!  :)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1573.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1575.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1577.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1579.jpg)
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/ryoon4690/IMG_1580.jpg)
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: PaulN/KS on November 15, 2012, 01:39:40 am
That was a quality tree that you found Ryan...  :)
It's plain to see that you are getting the most out of it.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: gianluca100 on November 15, 2012, 04:09:46 am
Hello Ryoon,

thanks for the added pics and the indictaion of the weight. I entered the figures in badgers bow mass calculator and it spit out 22 oz. You said that it was 20.5 oz. So it seems a bit below mass.

I made a 65 pound black locust this year with a similar trapping and it ended up as very fast shooter without handshock. I did not even have to heat treat it, because string follow came out minimal. Sadly I can't take measurements or pics anymore because I sold it.

For ash and black locust back trapping (in combination with possible heat treating) seems the way to go. On the other hand, if you overdo you pass the limit and the back blows  8)

Again, very nice bow  :)
gian-luca
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: SLIMBOB on November 15, 2012, 08:56:29 am
Love this bow.  Looks like a perfect tiller.  Very nice!
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Parnell on November 15, 2012, 09:27:48 am
Awesome job.  Thanks for those pictures, that makes a difference.  I like this one very much, you don't see that many bows posted up that show good examples of the trapped back.  Hickory seems available to so many people but they stray away from it because of its moisture reputation...but, I think you're showing that it just needs to be made properly and looked after and whammo it's a fine bow.

For function, those are my favorite nocks, also.  You never have to worry about overlays popping off over time, simplicity is always king for use.  It's a great bow.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: rps3 on November 15, 2012, 09:30:19 am
What a great bow, quite a few lessons to be learned here from you,  thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Badly Bent on November 15, 2012, 10:49:24 am
Just have to reply again on this bow and say that these close up pics really show a great attention to detail on the shaping of this bow and finish work. Love it.
Greg
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: BowEd on November 15, 2012, 11:45:52 am
Nothing wrong with that bow in fact everything looks right.Very nice use of that hickory.I like that hickory.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: RyanY on November 15, 2012, 06:35:53 pm
Thanks for the kind words guys! It makes me happy to hear some of you are learning from it. That's what I hope for when I post my bows since I've learned so much from the work of others.
Title: Re: Hickory Longbow
Post by: Arrowind on November 15, 2012, 06:54:19 pm
I always look forward to seeing your bows.  I love your work. It's always inspiring and this one is no exception. Awesome!