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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: iowabow on July 18, 2012, 03:24:28 pm

Title: autumn olive I think. (it is dogwood)
Post by: iowabow on July 18, 2012, 03:24:28 pm
Autumn olive saplings. This shaft is 550ish shot from 48 # recurve bow. Bare shaft test. I think they shoot real nice and grow all over. Very little straighting was done. This shaft was straightened by hand no heat.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oui-gperaE&feature=youtube_gdata_player  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oui-gperaE&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: autumn olive I think.
Post by: bowtarist on July 18, 2012, 05:50:17 pm
Nice vid john!  No point or nock wrap.  That was brave w/o the wrap. If it is olive, I've had my eye on a few around the house.  I'm always lookin for invasive arrow materials...i.e MFR.  Savin the world one arrow shaft @ a time.  ;) dpgratz
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Post by: iowabow on July 19, 2012, 12:33:45 am
Not sure of the name of this tree so of anyone knows its name please ring in.
Title: Re: autumn olive I think.
Post by: iowabow on July 19, 2012, 12:47:20 am
Pic
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Post by: iowabow on July 19, 2012, 12:48:56 am
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Title: Re: autumn olive I think.
Post by: bowtarist on July 19, 2012, 11:44:55 am
That doesn't look like the olive we have around here.  does it have smallish thorns on it?  The stuff we have does. dp
Title: Re: autumn olive I think.
Post by: iowabow on July 19, 2012, 01:40:45 pm
No so i sent an emal to a fotestry friend.
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Post by: Josh B on July 19, 2012, 02:01:02 pm
That looks like the little dogwood patch next to your yard.  Right below the cherry tree that I was eyeballing.  Definitely good shaft there!  Josh
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Post by: Pat B on July 19, 2012, 02:35:53 pm
dogwood
redosier
Title: Re: autumn olive I think.
Post by: iowabow on July 19, 2012, 04:01:35 pm
They made real nice shafts. Gun doc next time you are here we will go cut you some.
Title: Re: autumn olive I think.
Post by: bowtarist on July 19, 2012, 05:15:19 pm
And there you go John, some of the best native arrow wood available...right in your own yard. 

8)dpg
Title: Re: autumn olive I think.
Post by: Pat B on July 19, 2012, 06:42:25 pm
John, these multi stemmed shrubs have dogwood type leaves, the leaves are opposite on the stem like a dogwood and have fruit like one of the shrub dogwoods. If it is not red osier it is another one of the shrub dogwoods. They all make very good shafts.
Title: Re: autumn olive I think.
Post by: iowabow on July 20, 2012, 12:34:39 pm
And there you go John, some of the best native arrow wood available...right in your own yard. 

8)dpg
Funny I have been all over looking for great shaft material and it was 10yards from the house all along! Live and learn.

Thank you Pat. I did hear back from the forester and she thinks it is dogwood as well. They make real nice shafts but are just a little heavy.

Has any one made a set of dogwood arrows ? I would like to know how it went. Do you try to shave the thicker end?
Title: Re: autumn olive I think. (it is dogwood)
Post by: Josh B on July 20, 2012, 01:15:51 pm
Lol!  I was wondering why you were cutting willow when you had all that dogwood growing so close.  It makes sense now.  I have a bunch of it around my place as well.  I use a thumb plane to shave down the big end of the shaft.  I use dogwood shoot arrows for my heavier draw bows and honeysuckle for the lighter ones.  Dogwood shafts are very tough.  Josh
Title: Re: autumn olive I think. (it is dogwood)
Post by: bowtarist on July 20, 2012, 01:44:43 pm
Lol!  I was wondering why you were cutting willow when you had all that dogwood growing so close.  It makes sense now.  I have a bunch of it around my place as well.  I use a thumb plane to shave down the big end of the shaft.  I use dogwood shoot arrows for my heavier draw bows and honeysuckle for the lighter ones.  Dogwood shafts are very tough.  Josh

Aver Honeysuckle?  The bush that stays green late and greena up early?
Title: Re: autumn olive I think. (it is dogwood)
Post by: Josh B on July 20, 2012, 02:36:43 pm
Lonicera maackii(amur honeysuckle) the stems are hollow so they make pretty light shafts with good spine.  Straightening can be tricky if your not patient, but they stay pretty straight and are fairly tough and resilient.  Josh 
Title: Re: autumn olive I think. (it is dogwood)
Post by: iowabow on July 20, 2012, 05:46:59 pm
Cool i cut one of those the other day. I will try it
Title: Re: autumn olive I think. (it is dogwood)
Post by: crooketarrow on July 22, 2012, 07:44:07 pm
  I littley cut and sold 1000' and 1000's of shoots, it's dog wood. ALTERNET dog wood what it's called here in WV. When they hit 3 to 4 years old there 3/8 and you can find plenty of straight ones. It's always been my # 1 shoot arrow.
  All dog wood has about the same leaves the pic. of the shoots bark (little darker specks) red orier don't have this. Only ALTERNET dog wood has this that cofirms it to me.
Title: Re: autumn olive I think. (it is dogwood)
Post by: TRACY on July 25, 2012, 09:06:33 pm
Looks like grey dogwood (Cornus racemosa) from the pics. Not sure if that's the same as alternet but agree it's not red osier.

Tracy