Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: kurogane_84 on May 19, 2012, 12:46:51 am
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hey all, im thinking of a survival/ scouting pack and this is a basic pack mind you, heres the contents in category form, if you have any suggestions or even any gripes with this let me know, my dad was a trapper and he always took a grub box and boil up box, but i want a more mobile setup
Pack
Tools - Sharpening stone
- Files - Fine and coarse
- # 18 Mason line or Tarred Bank line
- 50 to 100 foot of nylon 1/4 inch line
Medical/ - 2 X tarps - 10 ' X 12"
Safety - Dry clothes - Socks - Wool socks - shirts - mitts - jacket
- pants - hat/ toque - undies
- utensils - fork - knife - spoon - wooden spoon
- Wool Blanket or sleeping bag
- Binocculars
- Compass
- TP
- cooking pot
- stainless steel water bottle
- food general list of dry goods, corned beef, canned milk, tea and other misc things local trappers take
- sewing kit
- folding mirror
- flash light and head lamp
- batteries - flash light and head lamp
- marking tape
Survival/ - Spool of fishing line 12 lb test
misc - assorted hooks and weights
Now the shoulder bag and what i would wear on my belt
Tools - Sharpening tool - speedy sharp
- 4 in 1 rasp
- Multi tool
- measuring tape - sewing roll up
Belt - Axe - 1/14 16 inch handle
- survival knife - thick blade like a machete with saw on back, can be used as a spear head if needed
- Sheathe knife - stainless steel Mora scout knife
Medical/ - First aid kit - misc supplies, gauze and plaster tape needed and mylar blanket
Safety - Fire starting - water proof matches, cotton balls soaked with vasaline, micro torch and butane
- Bandanna - Orange, hand made
Survival/ - Nocks - push in
Archery/ - Broad heads - glue on, 125 Gr, 11/32
Hunting - Trade points - simple steel shaped and sharpened ready to haft
- Taper tool - pencil sharpener or taper V2
- Nock tool
- Hot melt glue sticks, HD
- Sinew
- Nylon beading thread
- Prepared pine pitch
- Feather chopper and spare blades - Pope and younge 5" and flu flu 6"
- Rags
- container to make char cloth in
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I like to have 3 ways to start fire....waterproof matches, lighter ,steal match ...or some other such thing cotton +petroleum works good i also like to bring a magnesium brick as fire is one of the most important,also a whistle ;)
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yah i got a whistle too, and yah i got matches, the cotton balls, patroleum jelly, and my mini torch i used for fizing arrow heads onto the shafts, i use it for the hot melt, and just generic things, it is airated so it dries out stuff then catches it :P
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oh yah and a magniesium starter too, you need to shave it down and strike it with the flint lol, so other than that do you think its a good set up for a trappers bag, its a BIG bag my dad used on the trap lines, it holds clothes for a family of 6 LOL
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if your bag is big enough you ought to have a takedown bow and a few arrows along also. that is a lot of stuff for a basic survival pack though. :o
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I call it bacis cause my dad always carried this plus a cooler box, packed with food and thinkg like cups, a kettle, and all sorts of goodies LOL, i have a long bow i would be carrying and some arrows aswell, the back pack is mostly for the bulk of it, and the shoulder bag is my archery tools and supplies, i was thinking about converting my CX Heritage 250 shafts into some 3 piece, i have 3 with Zwickey broadheads and 4 with bullet points, i had a doz but im going to make some trade point shafts with some small birches or willows.
any advice on what i should take out or add to the kit, either the back pack or the shoulder bag, i would like to travel as light as possible but knowing be ill have a 20 lb pack LOL
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i would swap the wool blanket or sleeping bag for a foil space blanket and i would take out the flu-flu chopper out, all you need to do for flu-flus is cut full height feathers however long you want your flu-flus to be. also what is TP?
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i would swap the wool blanket or sleeping bag for a foil space blanket and i would take out the flu-flu chopper out, all you need to do for flu-flus is cut full height feathers however long you want your flu-flus to be. also what is TP?
i was thinking bout removing them cause i was based at my cabin, and tp is toilet paper :P i also put rags in incase i needed em, and yah i was thinking bout the flu flus too, id have the blade only tho, not a full cutter, the p n y would be the full
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if this is for a survival setup you could just use a burning stick to burn the feathers to shape instead of a chopper. after all it doesn't have to look pretty. ;) also where is the bic lighter? >:D those micro torches sure are nice for glue-on points though. :)
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If ya got cattails near you then get some of last years heads and put them in a ziplock bag. they are a great fire starter an you can carry an ember in them so you will have a better chance to start a fire. i carry them in my pack just in case.
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if this is for a survival setup you could just use a burning stick to burn the feathers to shape instead of a chopper. after all it doesn't have to look pretty. ;) also where is the bic lighter? >:D those micro torches sure are nice for glue-on points though. :)
the bic lighter is there and yes they are great, i use mine for almost everything LOL, and true its not needed but its kind of a luxury id like to have along LOL, just for the hell of it :P
If ya got cattails near you then get some of last years heads and put them in a ziplock bag. they are a great fire starter an you can carry an ember in them so you will have a better chance to start a fire. i carry them in my pack just in case.
No cat tails around but there are some ear fungus i think they are called, i just called em the widows back braces, cause around here they are on the dead trees, the widow makers
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your kit looks good to me, with the changes i suggested at least. >:D
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your kit looks good to me, with the changes i suggested at least. >:D
HAHAHAHAH yes and im still thinking a thin sleeping bag just cause i need one when i go out in tent and such LOL, but yes the bic lighter and the other items are included :P, my dad has a OLD back pack from the 40s or 50s, he has never let me carry it cause it always had enough stuff for a family of 6 ppl, but now im going to pack it for myself :) and im packing some ice fishing hooks incase i walk to a river north of me and can get on a fallen tree with it, or for winter never knows :P and thank you kind sir
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I would keep the wool blanket, and get a Mylar space blanket, they are extremely light. Also would include a nylon roll up hammock, which can be used as an emergency back pack, and a fish net. Also, some hydrogen peroxide, and definitely some Australian Tea Tree Oil. It is the strongest anti bacterial, and anti fungal medicine you can buy over the counter. Make sure it is 100% Tea tree oil, some brands put alcohol in it. Also, for your fire starter kit, add, a small bottle of hand sanitizer, it will light with minimal spark, and add a couple of small rolls of fine steel wool. You an get it at Harbor Freight, cheap. As for nifty knifes, I am not a big fan of SOG brand knives, but they do have a great little folding knife, call Tool Logic, and it has a whistle in the grip, and a Spark bar on the back of the handle and an elongated hole on the back of the blade for ease of opening, and several notches, on the back, to use on to strike the sparking bar. The blade is sharp, and will take and hold a very sharp edge, it has a small section that is serrated. They also make one with a light, and now they have one with the sparking bar, "and" a small LED light. The sparking bar is quite bright, and can be used as a signaling device, and it will set note book paper on fire, with just the sparks from it. I would also include a leather awl/stitcher, with extra waxed thread. Also a couple of small bars of pure bees wax. It comes in handy, in a number of ways, sealing leaking seams, making sap glue, coating small sticks for aid in starting wet, or damp wood, etc. Also include about four large heavy duty contractor grade trash bags. Can be used for rain coats, tied around the feet, for crossing streams, slit open, for water proof shelter, carrying water, and whole lot of other things. Not to mention using them for stuff you want to stay dry. I would keep the wool blanket, and socks, and add a wool shirt, light jacket, sweater, etc. and pants if you have them, being that even wet, they will keep you warm. Also add some small spoons to your fishing supply, and get some Pro line 25-30 pound fishing line, it is as small in diameter as 10-12 lb. mono filament, you can use it for a number of things like a new bow string, stitching, or sewing clothes, footwear, back pack, use it for snares, etc. Sounds more like a bug out bag, than a survival bag. ;)
Wayne
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I would keep the wool blanket, and get a Mylar space blanket, they are extremely light. Also would include a nylon roll up hammock, which can be used as an emergency back pack, and a fish net. Also, some hydrogen peroxide, and definitely some Australian Tea Tree Oil. It is the strongest anti bacterial, and anti fungal medicine you can buy over the counter. Make sure it is 100% Tea tree oil, some brands put alcohol in it. Also, for your fire starter kit, add, a small bottle of hand sanitizer, it will light with minimal spark, and add a couple of small rolls of fine steel wool. You an get it at Harbor Freight, cheap. As for nifty knifes, I am not a big fan of SOG brand knives, but they do have a great little folding knife, call Tool Logic, and it has a whistle in the grip, and a Spark bar on the back of the handle and an elongated hole on the back of the blade for ease of opening, and several notches, on the back, to use on to strike the sparking bar. The blade is sharp, and will take and hold a very sharp edge, it has a small section that is serrated. They also make one with a light, and now they have one with the sparking bar, "and" a small LED light. The sparking bar is quite bright, and can be used as a signaling device, and it will set note book paper on fire, with just the sparks from it. I would also include a leather awl/stitcher, with extra waxed thread. Also a couple of small bars of pure bees wax. It comes in handy, in a number of ways, sealing leaking seams, making sap glue, coating small sticks for aid in starting wet, or damp wood, etc. Also include about four large heavy duty contractor grade trash bags. Can be used for rain coats, tied around the feet, for crossing streams, slit open, for water proof shelter, carrying water, and whole lot of other things. Not to mention using them for stuff you want to stay dry. I would keep the wool blanket, and socks, and add a wool shirt, light jacket, sweater, etc. and pants if you have them, being that even wet, they will keep you warm. Also add some small spoons to your fishing supply, and get some Pro line 25-30 pound fishing line, it is as small in diameter as 10-12 lb. mono filament, you can use it for a number of things like a new bow string, stitching, or sewing clothes, footwear, back pack, use it for snares, etc. Sounds more like a bug out bag, than a survival bag. ;)
Wayne
HAHAHAHAHAHHA yes man kind of a bug out bag, i was thinking incase im traveling down a local road, it has nothing for over 300 KM each way and id be left to self reliance, and i might leave the blanket, maybe, but id like a small sleeping bag none the less and in my assorted hooks i do have some small spoons, and most of the items you have told me have been added into the new list, thanks for the input Wayne, and it took me 30 mins to read mother kept bugging me about a movie im not even watching LOL
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Yes it would come in handy, on a long desolate trip, if you happen to break down.
But if you are in your vehicle, keep the wool blanket, you can leave it in the vehicle, if you decide to abandon it, and start walking, but it can be used in a lot of ways also. Shade, cut into a swath, to wrap around your chest, and legs, for extra warmth, and around your head, and face, in extreme cold, an emergency stretcher, just lay two saplings on it, length ways, and roll the edges up and over the saplings, a couple of times, and wrap the ends of the blanket with twine, straps, etc. You can use it as a travois , and put all your other stuff on it and drag it, either by hand, or put straps on the ends of the sapling, and put them around your waist, or long enough to go around your shoulders and chest. Cut it up for emergency snow shoes. Can also use it as a water filter to filter out debris in the water. You could use your spare "CLEAN" socks for that as well. :P But if you have warm pants, and a sweater, or light coat, then you could leave the blanket. But in the summer, a light sleeping bag may be too warm. Where are you located? Neder Lands? Sounds like you have your set up ready. Are you going to take it for a test run? 8)
Wayne
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Yes it would come in handy, on a long desolate trip, if you happen to break down.
But if you are in your vehicle, keep the wool blanket, you can leave it in the vehicle, if you decide to abandon it, and start walking, but it can be used in a lot of ways also. Shade, cut into a swath, to wrap around your chest, and legs, for extra warmth, and around your head, and face, in extreme cold, an emergency stretcher, just lay two saplings on it, length ways, and roll the edges up and over the saplings, a couple of times, and wrap the ends of the blanket with twine, straps, etc. You can use it as a travois , and put all your other stuff on it and drag it, either by hand, or put straps on the ends of the sapling, and put them around your waist, or long enough to go around your shoulders and chest. Cut it up for emergency snow shoes. Can also use it as a water filter to filter out debris in the water. You could use your spare "CLEAN" socks for that as well. :P But if you have warm pants, and a sweater, or light coat, then you could leave the blanket. But in the summer, a light sleeping bag may be too warm. Where are you located? Neder Lands? Sounds like you have your set up ready. Are you going to take it for a test run? 8)
Wayne
LOL yes im pretty much set up, just needs to put it all together and get the last few pieces lol, im in Eastern Canada, province of Labrador, im going to base camp in my cabin and might go for a 3 day scout, but im going to take minimal meat cause i can hunt for grouse, rabbits and such :)
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Revised Go Go bag list LOL, i combined the shoulder with it for now, i need to divide them and decide what im going to put in canvas rolls and canvas bags the im going to make, and as before anything i forgot let me know
Identification / Documentation
- Drivers Liscense/ Birth Cercificate
- Pal card / Sin / MCP
- Liscenses / Permits
Gadgets / Tools
- Binoculars
- Headlamp
- Multitool
- Files - Fine - Coarse - Rat tail - 4n1
- Folding saw
- Rope
- Tarred bank Line
- Sharpening tool
- Sewing measuring tape
- Machete
- Micro torch / Butane
- Glasses Repair Kit
Navagation
- Compass
- Map
Harvesting
- Knife - Sheathe
- Surveorys tape
- Game cleaning procedures
- Small game bag - smaller pack pack
- Garbage bags
- Spare ammo if gun taken
Hygene/ Medical/ Safety
- Sunlight soap
- Lye Soap
- 2 Tarps
- Toilet Paper - 2 rolls
- Trail Mix
- Energy Bars
- Folding Mirror
- First aid kit - Look for *
- Fire starter/ aids: Cotton balls/ vasiline, Water proof matches, lighters, flint striker
- Bar soap
- Deoderant
- Rags
- Whistle
Clothing
- Boots - Dunlops
- Hiking boots - Steel toes
- Wool socksX3
- Normal socks X3
- Gloves - Cotton, Work and insulated
- Rain Gear
- Shirt X3
- Mits
- Jacket
- Pants X2
- Underwear X3
- Hat/toque
- Bama booties
Belt
- Axe
- Knive - Survival
Archery
- Bow
- Arrows
- Archery kit in shoulder bag
- String Wax
- Arm Gaurd/ Glove
- Quiver
- Target
- Nocks - Push in
- Broadheads - 125 Gr - glue on
- Bullet points - 125Gr - glue on
- Trade points
- Taper tools - Pencil sharpener - Taper V2
- Nock tool
- Hotmelt glue HD
- Sinew
- Beading Thread
- Choppers - PnY 5 inch - Flu Flu 6 inch
Misc/ Around Camp
- Food - **
- Fishing kit ***
- Duct tape
- Extra Batteries - Head lamp, Alarm clock and Flash light
- Flash light
- Alarm clock
- Watch
- Baking soda
- Sewing kit
- Stainless steel - Water bottle, Bowls
- Canteen cup
- MSR style stow away cook pot
- Rubber Mallet
- Sleeping Bag
- Jumbo Bandanna
- 10 Feet Vylin fuel line
- Improvised snares / snare wire
* First aid kit includes
- Band aids
- Gauze
- Ointment
- peroxide
- Hand sanitizer
- Pills and Pain killers
- Cold meds/ allergy meds
- Mylar Blanket
- Sling
- Misc Bangages - Ace / Cling
** Food list
- Pack noodles
- Tea
- Canned milk
- corned beef
- Flour
- Baking Powder
- Salt / Pepper
- Sugar
- Rice
- Mollasses
- Butter
- Lard
*** Fishing Kit
- Spool of mono filement
- Assorted hooks and spoons
- Assorted weights
- Ice fishing rods - Smelts/ Trout/ Set Hooks