Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Youngboyer2(billyf) on May 03, 2012, 01:04:47 pm
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my woodshop teacher just granted me premission to make bows at recess and after school in his shop with my friends, i will have them all make board bows and hopefully get more people intrested in primitive archery...
this is too cool!!!!!!!!!
any suggestions on how to teach well and or keep people interested?
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you are so lucky, my school doesnt even have a woodshop, one hting i should probly add, is dont try to teach to many people at once, with to many things going on things could go wrong very quickly
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That's super cool :)
Your enthusiasm will keep folks interested.
Cipriano
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Very cool!!!
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i think the best way is to work along side of your buds and let them ask for any help, most people learn better by watching and doing, not by listening to someone talk, just keep it simple and fun, Bub
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Yep bub, everyone will be working,
I will keep it simple with red oak board bows.
I hope they have enough straight grained boards at home depot
I will try to make a really pretty one for the teacher who is letting us use his workspace.(hopefully it wont blow up on him ::))
Fishie: technically it's not "shop" but "tech"(same thing) I just figured that more people on this site would know it as shop class.
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Good for you. Pass it on. Jawge
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yb2, are you gonna go with pyramid bows, might be the best bet for success, Bub
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Woohoo! I can see the newpaper headline now!
Troubled Youths Make Weapons in School
>:D
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Good Idea, YB2.
It wouldn't surprise me a bit, JW. ::)
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Yep bub, the pyramid red oak buildalong from TG
JW... Ooh man.... I have been known to rant for hours about that, I don't live in an area w/ high crime or anything, no cops at school, no metal detectors, no nutin...
One of my friends was suspended for having 16D duplex nails "on his person" (he was shaping them w/ the tools in tech. The only reason the" suspender" knew That he had them was that one was poking out of the top of his pocket as he brought 'em back to his locker.
And in low intermediate school, this Same kid was suspended fo having a nail clipper on his belt loop
Because of the thing that u get the dirt from under your nails with A FRIGGIN NAIL CLIPPER
This same kid will be making a bow with me so I made sure to pull out all the stops and get permission from everyone, this kid seems to attract bad luck in this field :P
P.S. I will try to take pictures but school might have rules against it :'(
But seriously, as long as there are no arrows involved we should be fine
YA HEAR THAT HAYAWATHA(Josh S) "NOARROWS IN SCHOOL EITHER" >:D :laugh:
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My tech teacher let me use his woodshop for a bow, even though it was my first and didn't work out :P
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Like the kid that was suspended for a year (evil 6 yr old) for bringing an M-16 to school. Mind you it was plastic and was an accessory for his GI Joe! Yeah, but someone could have mistaken it for a real gun! Right!?!
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Hmm... I guess you win, I was gonna mention the cub scout who wanted to eat his schol lunch with his "pocket utensil" that looked too much like a pocket knife(it was a openable spork)
But the GIjoe gun takes the prize... Well that's the system for ya!
I am lucky that they don't think a half made bow is like a half made gun, or that a shootable bow w/o arrows is like a gun w/o bullets.
I am glad that the state keeps our schools safe, I just wish they used some sense >:(
I will be sure to make other kids (including myself)take them home in PVC pipes so that nobody gets in trouble(presuming that some bows survive ;D)
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RUN! He has a spork! ;D
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I will be sure to make other kids (including myself)take them home in PVC pipes so that nobody gets in trouble(presuming that some bows survive ;D)
Heck NO! Make their parent come down and pick it up. Get pics of the parent and kid with the bow!
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RUN! He has a spork! ;D
for a second there i though you said RUN! He has PORK ::) hehehehe
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yb2, that's the best pyramid build a long, 4est trecker makes outstanding build a longs,
heck when i was in school we all carried pocket knives and had guns in the gunrack's of our truck's during hunting season, man ya can't do nothin' anymore ::), Bub
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bub,
do u know how i could get the recurve form for that buildalong? im not a member of TG and cant PM 4est trecker to ask him for it
i dont need recurved tips but they look nice :)
if anyone has that recurve form please PM me ,
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yb2 i do those tips all the time, do you have a french curve, with the long one you can lay it out, that's what i do, Bub
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Picture004-11.jpg)
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you can take the 6" piece and glue it on, if ya cant get a french curve take a flex rulerand flex it from the top edge to the lower edge and have someone mark it, i never made a template, Bub
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Cool, sounds like a lot less work :)
I wanted everyone to pick out their own boards but scheduling and carpooling didn't work out, I will try to get some today after writing thank you cards from my bar-mitzvah
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got out today and got the stuff :D
fairly good grain
gonna try the poorfolksbows red oak too.
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upon further inspection the big one has two gouges, right where the outsides of the fades will be... i hope that they are not too deep
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Fishie: technically it's not "shop" but "tech"(same thing) I just figured that more people on this site would know it as shop class.
Whaaaat? Is that some kind of reference to all us old school "oldies" who would only know it as "Shop"? ;)
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is the gouge on the back, you can allways plane it down past that spot, and if your worried about any of the grainyou can rip a piece a little thicker than an 1/8" sand the saw marks out and flip the backer endofrom the other piece so the grain is going both direction's, that will take care of most problems, you can pm me if i confused you, bub
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Fishie: technically it's not "shop" but "tech"(same thing) I just figured that more people on this site would know it as shop class.
Whaaaat? Is that some kind of reference to all us old school "oldies" who would only know it as "Shop"? ;)
Funny you should ask, I was going to write it as a more direct reference to Age but I didn't want everyone to get it!
Bub, the grain is fine(as it should be after going through 200 boards!), I hope I can just cut past the
gouge holes and into undamaged wood.
Bub, the grain is purty good
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Like the kid that was suspended for a year (evil 6 yr old) for bringing an M-16 to school. Mind you it was plastic and was an accessory for his GI Joe! Yeah, but someone could have mistaken it for a real gun! Right!?!
What? Man thats dumb.
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Yb2, you might wanna have em back em with linen just incase. Red Oak boards can be unpredictable once in a while. Sometimes a small little pea sized dot of a knot with lift on a board bow. It's easy to miss little bitty knots like that too. It might keep someones not so pefect first attempt at tillering a bow in one piece? I am also all for pyramid bows verses the poorfolkbows build. He uses a narrower bow, which can cause chrysals easier and take set easier also. I don't know if you need to go as wide as the tradgang pyramid bow buildalong, but wider at the fades is better for a first bow I would think.
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x2 what toomanyknots said, i would try 2" wide with a straight taper down to 1/2"tips and maybe 68" long for a 28" draw
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Sounds like a great idea, hope you can keep posting pictures of your progress.
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Here's something else I would like to bring up about your projects....yeah, pics! I understand with the sensitivity on privacy and such that would need to get permission from the school and each of the people featured in the photos, too.
But since you already have permission to rebel against modern technology and the Wheelie Bow Amalgamation I think the permission slips would be pretty easy stuff for you to accomplish!
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JW, I will take all pictures off school grounds, as per school rules,
And as for the frequency of these pictures you need to remember that I picked up the boards on Friday night... The work is done at school... It is still weekend :laugh:
I guess that I could start roughing one out though, to show everyone the finished product.
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Teacher gotta be one step ahead of the students!
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wellllll........
i got to school on the bus today, so no planks were transported :'(
but after all the homework was done and after boyscouts (where i won a cookoff) i was feelin sorta antsy so i decided to go 3 steps ahead...
i will probably have a finished product when they are halfway through
enough talk, picture time
sorry for the letdown, ipod cameras stink >:(
and i did go 3" at the fades, i just want to follow this first buildalong to the letter before i start tweaking the plans
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I am sure that youngsters of any time period are able to get done whatever they put their mind to , so I feel confident you will get this pulled off !
We had a trap shooting team when I was in school we shot clay targets in the school yard !!
we could not carry a knife with a blade longer than
1 1/2" even though its only 1" to the heart go figure !
Have fun but stay safe !!!
Guy
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that is awesome YB2! Try showing your 'students' some videos from youtube about primitive archery, that ought to keep them interested as well. Good luck and keep us posted with your progress!