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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Prarie Bowyer on May 01, 2012, 01:20:03 pm

Title: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Prarie Bowyer on May 01, 2012, 01:20:03 pm
As usual I don't have full draw pics yet.  I'm home alone.  these two bows were about pushing the abilities of Ipe to take the R/D shape and Recurve the ends of a bow. 

Future R/D bows of this design will have shallower limbs.  This would probably be a Recurve technicaly as the string touches the belly when strung.  I just finished the patch and don't want to string it yet till I get on the tree and look the tiller over with a long string first.
This bow will be mine as I observe the patch performance.  It was pushing 70# at 28"  It is 68" long Tip to Tip.

The recurve I'm going to change.  I don't need as deep or as long of a recurve on the ends of the bow.  That will give me more working limb and a bit more length in the bow.  It is a bend in the handle because it became clear that with this material combination anyway 28" would not be posible with a fixed riser.  Arrow shelf if Pear wood.  Belly is ipe and the white wood under the bamboo is Hickory.  This was  areal tillering victory for me for a few reasons.  I got it back to 29", and removed some grain induced limb twist through the tillering process.  I finaly got my head around what is going on there.  Oh the core needs to be thinner also in future versions.  This is 65#ish at 28" and 58" Nock to nock.  The black wraps actualy hold down a pair of lifted fibers on the lower limb at the fades in the bamboo.  One went all the way into the hickory core.  I flexed it open and soaked it with super glue then unstrung the bow and clamped it closed.  Then I checked it on the tiller tree at full draw again and it seemed to be holding but I wrapped it with B-50 anyway.  Not certain what I'll do with this bow.  I owe one to my brother who just bought a kayak also.
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee59/scottnlena/IMG_3590.jpg)
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The R/D bow has my Torges patch in it.
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee59/scottnlena/IMG_3600.jpg)
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(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee59/scottnlena/IMG_3574.jpg)

The real victory is the amount of limb twist I tillered out of the recurve.
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: ErictheViking on May 01, 2012, 02:07:14 pm
Both are sweet but that recurve is just SAWEET! love the handle on that bad boy too. very nice work. impressive getting that much bend on ipe.
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: stickbender on May 01, 2012, 02:21:32 pm

     Dang, boy, that thar is just finer than frog hairs!  Man, that is a nice pair of bows.  I think you are kinda getting the hang of it now. ::)  Very nice job on both bows! 8) 8) 8)

                                                        Wayne
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Del the cat on May 01, 2012, 03:25:24 pm
Good work on that patch.
handsome pair of bows.
Del
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Prarie Bowyer on May 01, 2012, 03:30:32 pm

Thanks guys!
 I turned my nose up at bend in the handle bows when I started.  Now I love them.  Not a problem one with them.
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: country on May 01, 2012, 03:42:40 pm
Very Nice..... I'm putting one of those on my to do list   :)
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: dragonman on May 01, 2012, 06:14:00 pm
nicw work on those bows, I especially like the recurve, those are a lot of work and you have done a neat job on yours. Thats a top combo of woods, best of luck with those bows hope they work out

Dave
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: lesken2011 on May 01, 2012, 06:23:57 pm
Great job on both of those, Scott. I'm beginning to really like the kerf splices. Really nice curves on those babies!!
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Parnell on May 01, 2012, 06:26:01 pm
They're beauties.  Lookin forward to full draw!
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Dauntless on May 01, 2012, 08:15:05 pm
That recurve has me eyeing my ipe lams... We'll see if hand sawn kerf recurves are doable.
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Prarie Bowyer on May 01, 2012, 08:48:26 pm
That recurve has me eyeing my ipe lams... We'll see if hand sawn kerf recurves are doable.

go slow.
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Youngboyer2(billyf) on May 02, 2012, 12:15:53 am
Nice job :)
What were you putting that torges patch over?
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Almostpighunter on May 02, 2012, 01:26:34 am
Man those are nice looking and I wager they are going to have some serious speed behind them as well! Great work!- Mike
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Prarie Bowyer on May 02, 2012, 01:31:18 am
Nice job :)
What were you putting that torges patch over?

Over drew it and got a single chrysle.
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: Prarie Bowyer on May 08, 2012, 03:39:11 am
I tried to patch another close suspect area and the patch failed.   :'(  Oh well.  I pushed the envelope on what I think I can do with Ipe.  Now lets build some real bows.
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: rossfactor on May 08, 2012, 01:39:20 pm
Its great to see how far you can take a patch job though.  That recurve is a pretty unique design for Ipe.  You usually don't see that much bend on the tips. Great work.

Gabe
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: markinengland on May 08, 2012, 05:21:54 pm
Lovely bow. Wish this site had touch-avision!

Mark in England
Title: Re: Ipe recurves - the patch brothers.
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 08, 2012, 07:14:22 pm
Never did see either of these bend like bows do?