Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Kegan on August 24, 2007, 06:40:01 pm
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Heard it works on deer (given local game laws). How is that so? I kow it isn't the best, but how does it peform? Got me thikning after reading the old PA article, "48 Year Hunt" or something.
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Are you talking about the Neolithic European points that look like a chisel? I don't think I'd hunt big game with 'em myself-I would kind of be inclined to think that a point on the tip would improve penetration just a bit :) They must have been effective for some use, though, or they wouldn't have made and used 'em.
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I have a friend that lives in NC now that killed a BIG bear.He killed it with one of those points made out of obsidean.
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Kinna depends on if ya work on the chisel point after ya knock it off bigger piece. That makes em' more effective IMO. Like hillbilly said a point is preferable but as Mullet said these chisel pernts will do the job. I have used em and taken thin skinned game as they come off a preform untouched and touched up also............bob
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Even with Wensels,If you file the point to a chisel,IMO they work better when hitting bone.I've had other people that use and swear by them do the same.I have two that folded over hitting bone in hogs.I believe very ,needle sharp stone points just come apart when hitting bone.Which is not a bad thing with rock.And I've seen not so pointed and flat pointed rock points penetrate and break bone.
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Flint guys! Truly this would make a great point and a good use of materials. The edge being 1 micron thick would just zip through most flesh but I think it would break if it hit bone. Though if you had a big enough blad from which they were chipped out they might hold up well.
David T
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David,I'm shooting 3" long coral points by 1 1/4" wide this year.They weight about 125 to 135 grains.
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Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong type of point. Is this the one you strike a blade off a core, then notch and break it from the blade and then insert on the shaft?
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???..............bob
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Im glad Im not the only one. ??? ??? Justin
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I think he's talking about these:
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I know it wouldn't be the best penetrating blade, but it seems like it would be good for emergencies or simple survival- being so easy to knap and all. I had heard of people using them, just wanted to get everyone else's opinion- thanks :)!
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Hey Keegan! I think it must be a good point with. They used a ton of them in the Neolithic from what I heard. It actually came after bifacial flaking in the history books. Simple fast to make and sharper than a bifacially flaked point. Though I think the bifacial flake would be more areodynamic.
I would like to think the people who made those were really smart! Think about it. Simple and fast to make. You can pop out five from a long blade in a 1/4 the time it takes to make a bifacial point. Also, its redealy disposable since most times you break the point after shooting it at a game animal anyways. So little time in the point turns out to be a good think if your just going to bust it up when shooting it.
David T
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they work and the animal bleeds out something fierce. but i still prefer a standard point.
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Those are interesting - haven't read about or heard about them in any of the books I've read, look like they'd do the job - but I'd prefer bifaced points myself.