Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bow101 on March 04, 2012, 07:19:09 pm
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Whoooaaa.....finally found some fiberglass tape. Ya, here in Canadoo found it at Canadian Tire of all places.
List name is Filament tape. it's 1/2 inch wide.
Will be experimenting with it as a bow backing..! Any body tried this yet..? or had any sucess.?
What i plan on doing is giving the bow first a lite application of epoxy first then applying the tape, and a epoxy coat over top. I figure that a lite coating before applying will keep it on much better.
After the epoxy has set the tape will eventually peel off the wood, Thinking the self adhesive backing will not be strong enough..
What you guys Think..? ;D
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On this site, that's the equivalent of the "F" word.
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IF you want to use a f!bergl@ss tape backing, I would recommend this build along. (http://poorfolkbows.com/oak5.htm)
Epoxy does not sound like a good glue for the application. It may become too brittle on the back. But more importantly, epoxy is not UV-light resistant. That means it will degrade over time, being exposed to direct (sun)light! In normal applications, the glue joint is between two layers of light impermeable material. So UV light won't reach the epoxy. But in your case it will. So, don't use epoxy. Use a waterproof woodglue such as TiteBond.
There's better and more primitive solutions for the drywall tape backing. Rawhide, linen, flax fiber and sinew come to mind. Looks better too :)
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Should of known better. F-tape obviously is not a Primitive factor..!
Will remember for future :-\ posts.
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I don't think Titebond would work in this application as the tape backing man made and water base glue would not be compatible. Thats my take on it.
IF you want to use a f!bergl@ss tape backing, I would recommend this build along. (http://poorfolkbows.com/oak5.htm)
Epoxy does not sound like a good glue for the application. It may become too brittle on the back. But more importantly, epoxy is not UV-light resistant. That means it will degrade over time, being exposed to direct (sun)light! In normal applications, the glue joint is between two layers of light impermeable material. So UV light won't reach the epoxy. But in your case it will. So, don't use epoxy. Use a waterproof woodglue such as TiteBond.
There's better and more primitive solutions for the drywall tape backing. Rawhide, linen, flax fiber and sinew come to mind. Looks better too :)
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With good board selection, you don't need a backing at all. A drywall tape may protect a bow from breakage or lifting a splinter, but it will certainly make a bow slower.
I tell you epoxy is not wise to use. You can be stubborn and use it anyway, but I trust Sam Harper on using TiteBond. He's not the only one using it for this application. Titebond is not water based, but polyvinylacetate based.
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I'll try the Titebond....cheers DarkSoul and thanks for your input.
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i got the impresion you the OP was talking about fiberglass reinforced packing tape. There is a reference to the stuff in TBB V1 or V2. not sure which. as far as the epoxy, I would stick with TB2. follow Sam's guide if you insist on using it. As other's have mentioned, there are other, more attractive materials, linen cloth, jute twine, hemp twine, all could be applied with hide glue or TB2.
JS
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Lots of other good backings out there to use besides that.
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You'll be wasting your time with that, bud. There's no point in applying any epoxy or glue underneath, because it would just be bonding to the adhesive, not the tape. You're right, the adhesive would come loose.
There are so many better options, don't even bother with it!
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However if you do want to use glass cloth tape to back you do have to use Epoxy. UV is not an issue really in a bow and besides there is generally a UV inhibiting finish on a glass bow anyway.
Glass lams are set in Epoxy.
You are better off discussing this on the 'other' boards though.
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Silk, burlap, linen, and rawhide are good natural backings probably ranking in that order. I've never used f...ff...fff ...I can't say it...tape but the above backings install fairly quickly. :) Jawge
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PatM - What you said is true, but I think what he is referring to is actual plastic tape, reinforced with fiberglass, with adhesive on the back. I think it would be a disaster, myself. Georges suggestions are the way to go!
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If you MUST use F#$#%@&$&, Use tbIII, Youtube boarriorbows, he does a build along, but I would reccommend using ANYTHING ELSE!!!! I used brown paperbag on my first and it worked great!, used silk on another and it is awesome!.
Listen to Jawge...
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I used epoxy to glue on some FG cloth onto a bow to save it. then covered it with a snakeskin print cloth. Worked just fine.
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I used this stuff and it does work. I had originally thought it was terrific, but after experimenting with other options I have found that it is decent, but only that. There are some GREAT options that are every bit as cheap and easy to apply with vastly superior results.
If you are dead set on this tape then I used TBIII when I used to use it and it works perfectly, as will TB II (but without the waterproofing aspect).
If you want to see an old video of how I applied it you can go to youtube and look up "How to Build a high performance longbow for under $10" . My moniker on Youtube is "Boarriorbows" and the videos #5-end of this series show the entire process.
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I would not use FG TAPE. I got FG Cloth. When epoxy was added to it to glue it on, it becomes translucent. NOT TRANSPARENT, but the wood color shows through.