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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Josh B on February 22, 2012, 02:40:53 pm

Title: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Josh B on February 22, 2012, 02:40:53 pm
This was a piece of Russian olive I harvested in Price UT.  The tree was 4" thick, about 40 rpi and riddled  with knots.  1 1/2" wide at the handle, 1 1/4" thick and 76" inches long.

27"-  90#    :)

28"- 94#    :D

29"- 99#    ;D

30"-   :o >:( :'(
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Gus on February 22, 2012, 03:01:00 pm
Ouch!

Man that's a Heart Break...

Sorry to see it.

-gus
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: sadiejane on February 22, 2012, 03:08:20 pm
what a bummer
was really looking forward to seeing that bow
sorry bout that!!
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Sidewinder on February 22, 2012, 03:15:32 pm
ooops. How in the heavens did you manage to pull that thing back being that heavy? It gave me a hernia just thinking about it. Oh well, onward and upwards.   Good experience though I'm sure.

Danny
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Bernal on February 22, 2012, 03:38:04 pm
Bummer about break...

I'm not familiar with the Russian olive, was the break due to the knots or the wood itself?
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Dictionary on February 22, 2012, 03:52:21 pm
Bummer about break...

I'm not familiar with the Russian olive, was the break due to the knots or the wood itself?

I'd like to know as well.
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: blackhawk on February 22, 2012, 04:11:26 pm
Yup we all break em...there mustve been a bowbreaking ghost running around,cus last night I had an osage fail in tension and broke clean off the upper part of my upper limb. I feel ya brother
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: bcbull on February 22, 2012, 04:31:25 pm
man josh thats a big boom  : im in castledale now  workin got some juniper here but never olive i get that at home lol made some flat bows with it turned out ok but never a war bow haha im bettin if ya get a piece knot free a good one it will work  so now ya got some ideas in my head  ha  brock
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Josh B on February 22, 2012, 05:23:47 pm
Big boom is right!  My ears were ringing after it went CRACK ! :o. This stave had alot of odds stacked against it. Paper thin rings, high crown, and riddled with knots.  Unfortunately, none of that caused the failure.  Due to some rough handling during the trip home from UT ,  I had inadvertently dented the back in several places.  Normally, I just raise the dents with steam and all is well.  A few months ago while doing just that, I was interrupted before I got the last dent raised.  I then promptly forgot about it until doing my failure analysis during which it became painfully obvious that, the dent was 100% the cause of the tension failure .  I'm still a couple months away from my 40th birthday and already plagued with CRS!  I will definitely try Russian olive again.  Josh
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: bcbull on February 22, 2012, 07:04:33 pm
josh  how did that sap work ?  im thinkin to try it  the ones i made were backed with no sap did one with white oak a cople rawhide  man i tell ya the stuff is reallly pretty when finished but i have been takin it off same as i do osage and maulberry do u think the sap helped  such as usin erc or yew sap  iv been wonderin about that brock
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Josh B on February 22, 2012, 08:27:41 pm
I'm afraid I don't have enough experience with Russian olive to give a well informed opinion. I honestly believe that any kind of wood with that kind of square edged dent would have failed.  Yes, even Osage which is as close to bullet proof as I've ever used. That being said, my gut tells me that it would be sound.  I put a helluva strain on it before it blew.  The only indication of failure was the dent.  It had only taken an inch of set after pulling it numerous times to 29".  It was still holding 3 " of natural reflex.  One more reason to kick myself I guess.  Oh well! As Jawge says "if you ain't breakin', you ain't makin' "  Josh 
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Keenan on February 22, 2012, 09:27:43 pm
Oh bummer Josh  Looks like it would have been a dandy
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Will H on February 22, 2012, 11:14:06 pm
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: MoNative on February 23, 2012, 12:56:38 am
Trust me man we know how it feels! Heart sinks to your stomach when that happens :P
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: criveraville on February 23, 2012, 01:11:38 am
Josh, sorry to see that. What is CRS?

Cipriano
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: DRon knife on February 23, 2012, 01:27:08 am
Three pieces??WOW!!!   @ 90+#'s...lucky you got away with your head!!  Ima start building one tomorrow lol!!
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: Josh B on February 23, 2012, 01:49:24 am
Thank you for the condolences everyone.  Cipriano,  CRS=can't remember fecal matter.  Josh
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: country on February 23, 2012, 01:57:58 am
Ouch......
always bites to hear the crack....
Title: Re: Russian olive warbow 76"ntn
Post by: soy on February 23, 2012, 03:17:10 am
Thank you for the condolences everyone.  Cipriano,  CRS=can't remember fecal matter.  Josh

No that would be crfm >:D  ;D