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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: PAHunter on February 19, 2012, 06:24:41 pm

Title: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 19, 2012, 06:24:41 pm
The Stats
•   Bow Name: Bob
•   Weight: 49# @ 28 inch
•   Nock to Nock: 68’’
•   Max Width: 1.5’’
•   Wood: Red Oak Board
•   Handle: none
•   Backing: Linen and TB III - decorated with sharpies
•   Finish: water based ploy

The Story
This is another filler bow in-between my great Elm (which is looking awesome IMO) and Osage projects.  I wanted to practice my recent tillering lessons.  This bow only took about 10 hours to build.  Still hard to believe!  It was drawing 53# when finished and then overnight went down to 49.  That puts me 1# under my target but, of course, I could care less.  It’s a shooter! 

My next project is a tiller tree.  I didn’t have one for this bow but really could have used it.  The art work is inspired from primitive cave drawings I found online.  I enjoyed doing these and will probably try to replicate more cave art in the future. 

(http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/pics/00small16388542.JPG)

(http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/pics/00small63818320.JPG)

(http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/pics/00small17660744.JPG)

(http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/pics/00small51419910.JPG)

(http://leatherwall.bowsite.com/tf/pics/00small34425081.JPG)

Thanks for looking!!
Rob
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: Weylin on February 19, 2012, 06:33:03 pm
Awesome! tiller looks good from here. 1# under weight is not even worth mentioning as a flaw, most people come in drastically under weight for their first few bows. I really think that cranking out some board bows while you are waiting on nicer staves when you're a beginner is a great idea. I have a couple friends that want to start making bows and this is exactly what I'm going to have them do.
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 19, 2012, 06:36:12 pm
Hmm I finished this bow at 5 AM this morning so I couldn't get my wife to take some full draw pics at that time (and stay married).  :-)  it would have helped as some of the tillering flaws are much more apparent in these pics.  My primary goals with this bow was to acheive a higher draw weight and have a better finish (no tool marks etc).  At 68'' I suspect/hope the tiller will be good enough.  Can't wait to shoot it! 

That's my daughter Ava in the pic BTW.  She said she likes the bow and then promptly asked, "where is mine Daddy?".  haha  That's my girl!
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: Weylin on February 19, 2012, 06:45:26 pm
cute kid.  :) I have a 2 1/2 year old boy who loves to help me work on my bows. I'll hand him a file and he'll go to town on the other end of the bow when I'm working. He also loves to 'floor tiller' my bows. he'll stand it up and start pushing on it, grunting and groaning and then say something like, "it's bending a little bit!" or "the tiller looks good, Papa." I'm hoping to make him a little bow for his 3rd birthday but I still haven't figured out what I want to make it out of.
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: blackhawk on February 19, 2012, 06:50:27 pm
 :)  :)  ;D   its fun watching you grow. your making huge steps. i guess a 7 hour learning session at my house fri eve wasnt enough for you this weekend. :laugh:  yup..your catching the bug buddy ;) your tiller is even better again....but still can be nitpicked. you need just a wee hair more bend in the upper mid limb(towards tips) in the upper limb. but overall its fine and will shoot for a long time,and more importantly itll killa deer. i like your cave art.if you keep at this your gonna be making some beautiful bows my friend

your lil girls cute..im sure she wood love to hang out with my rugrats sometime...bring the wife n lil girl sometime.
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 19, 2012, 06:53:27 pm
Thanks Weylin!  And that's awesome about you kid.  I'm fixin to do the same for Ava.  I will probably make a red oak board for her.  I saw some princess cloth I'm considering putting over the linen on hers.  I think 3 is probably a good target age; that way they should be hunting with us by 6.  ;-) 
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 19, 2012, 07:05:44 pm
@blackhaws: thanks much man!  Ya the board was taunting me.  It's safe to say any good points are a result of your teachings and flaws are a result of my forgetting/inpaitence.  ;)  Ava would have a blast with your kids.  I'll definitely bring her by sometime.  It was a pleasure meeting your family.  You have a great place and family; you're a very lucky guy.  Hope Damien is enjoying the jerky!
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: HickoryBill on February 20, 2012, 12:23:55 am
Rob your starting to make us experienced bowyers look baad..LOl  Nice looking bow...Next time you get an itch for a board bow try hard maple with a linen back..Much better than RO ,..You'll like it.
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 20, 2012, 01:26:30 am
haha thanks Bill, I appreciate it!  Will do but how do I tell what is hard maple at HD?  Is there a soft?  The maple I see looks very light almost white.  Anxious for spring to come and to cut down some trees instead of doing it the easy way.  ;)
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: dwardo on February 20, 2012, 08:20:44 am
Nice tiller :)
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: Pappy on February 20, 2012, 08:30:25 am
Nice looking bow and sweet little girl.Nice work. :) :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 20, 2012, 01:07:39 pm
@dwardo, Pappy: thanks guys, it means a lot!
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: lesken2011 on February 20, 2012, 01:18:45 pm
Great tiller and art work on that one. What weight linen did you use?
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: ErictheViking on February 20, 2012, 01:24:15 pm
Very nice bow. tiller can be nitpicked as Blackhawk said but it is bending nice and you didnt make a kids bow by mistake. impressive to make target weight.
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 20, 2012, 02:30:17 pm
@lesken: Thanks Kenny!  With the art work I try to be more concerned about what I think is cool or interesting to me and not what will "look prettiest".   :)  Of the available linen weights, I used a midium one I would say.  Hope that answers your question.
@ErictheViking: Thanks!  I was trying to balance not leaving it braced above 18'' to minimize set with getting an even tiller.  A little more paitence, a little less rum, and or a tiller tree would have helped.   ;D  I actually sanded it a bit more to even out the tiller a little.  Only lost .5 # in the process. 
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: HickoryBill on February 21, 2012, 12:15:25 am
Rob look for a piece of maple with the same grain as you look for in a RO board...Pick a few out and take the one that feels the heaviest....= more dense..Hard maple is a term used to describe many kinds of maple that are  " Harder" or more dense
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: Keenan on February 21, 2012, 01:29:19 am
Very nice bow, Congratulations.  Looks like a future hunting partner for you ;)
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: straightarrow on February 21, 2012, 09:49:32 am
Looks like Chris has got you on the right track. Haven't got to meet you yet because I have been doing some mentoring myself. Your tiller looks great and the cave drawings are Cool.... looking forward to meeting you in the future

Jon
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 22, 2012, 02:21:12 pm
@Keenan: thanks much man, I hope so!
@straightarrow: Yes he has and htanks for the compliments, much appreciated.  Lookin forward to meeting u as well.
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: Almostpighunter on February 23, 2012, 03:33:05 am
Looking good and I like the artwork! The lil archer is a darlin'
Title: Re: Bow 3 Pics, Sooo Close to Target Draw Weight…
Post by: PAHunter on February 23, 2012, 03:48:54 am
@Mike: thanks man, it's appreciated.  Ya she steals the show!  Just watched your osage videos looking forward to the conclusion.  I'm about to start on my first osage this week.  Very optimistic!