Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Youngboyer2(billyf) on February 13, 2012, 09:21:31 pm
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NEVER LET ANYONE ELSE DRAW YOUR SELFBOw THE RESULTS CAN BE DISASTEROUS... MARK MY WORDS
this was a while ago but i keep the remains around as a warning
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Tie a string from the fade to the bowstring that is the length of YOUR draw. If someone else draws your bow back, they can't overdraw it.
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Outlaw: That's a great idea! I will definately do that on the bows I display at the shoots. You never know when you're not paying attention and someone pulls it behind his ear.
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string.. good idea i don't know how many times i showed a bow to someone only to cringe as they pull it back hoping they won't overdraw it , trying to explain "now its ONLY a 26" draw bow.
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I can't take credit for the idea. A guy I met at last years Classic told me about it. He sold laminated bows and had somebody break one by overdrawing it. He used 1 strand of B-50. He was shooting the bow with it on there. He said it helped him from short drawing the bow while shooting.
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Yep! That's always been a good rule.You can do a search on here and find lots of warnings for several years past.
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With a 22 inch draw ya gotta be careful, great idea Osage outlaw, I will put the strings on 2 of the recurves that I let my friends shoot
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Outlaw I know people that had a problem with target panic that would tie a string their draw leath. This works good. THIS WORKS BETTER THAN A CLICKER WHERE YOUR MINE HAS TO TAKE CHARGE. USEING MUSSLE MEMEROY IS MUCH BETTER.
As far as handing my bow to someone. If he's not use to selfbows or traditional and I don't know his draw lenth. I DON'T nothing worse than someone drawing useing a compond draw trying to lock there elbo. I use to tiller a inch or 2 past just for a added safty feature. But this puts excess stress on your limbs that do'nt need to be there. Causeing excess set and string follow.
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Osage Outlaw, thats a good idea! My friend handed his fiberglass bow to a young kid - he drew it back and "dry fired" it = shattered limb. Needless to say my friend was very upset, that was his "meat bow".
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yep first 2 things to teach someone. never dry fire a bow and never pull it to far.
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So true. I had one that someone drew and drew it at about a million miles per hour like it was a powelifting competition - whamo.
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I like to let people shoot my bows, but I make sure they use my arrows which are cut to length so they can't overdraw.
Never let anyone draw without an arrow unless you are ure they can't pull it back to full draw (plenty of people tried my 90# ELB, but none got it anywhere near back to 28")
Del
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nope not me, i practically attack when people go near my hunting bow >:D (got liscense this summer) so i set a recurve from a yard sale aside along with a 1/2 doz arrows for guests.
Osage outlaw , can i use anything but B-50 for that limiting string like paracord (too heavy ???) or whatever. just wont have access to B-50 for a week of 2 and wondering if i can go for the cheapy fix
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25# fishing leader should work
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Any type of string or twine should work as long as it is tough enough to not break when they get it to full draw. Like I mentioned earlier, this was not my idea. It was from a guy at the Classic.
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Ouch!! That had to turt :embarassed:
Cipriano
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Here's a newbie question that I am sure has been discussed already so I will search for it in the meantime, How is full draw determined?
Do you decide, "OK I want this to be 45# @ 28"" and then tiller it until you hit the number you want, or do you make the bow and then see how far you can pull it before it starts making scary noises, then stop. (akin to my mechanic buddy's advice on torque; 'tighten it until it strips, then back off a hair."
I'm not quite clear on how over drawing a bow will break it, or in other words how one can determine ahead of time the point of failure.
Does my question make sense?
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that's a great rule, I have a 23 inch draw length so i will keep that in consideration. :)
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footfoot, i see what your saying i have bow (a boo backed one in particular ) that i made for my 26 inch draw at 45# and feel confident that someone with a 28" draw can pull it to there draw making it a 50+ at 28" without any trouble.
but i also have some shorter bows that i would not feel comfortable drawing much if any past the pre determined draw. they say half your bows length is you max draw length, maybe on longer bows it not as much of an issue? i think the big problem is when someone with a 28" draw yanks on a 26" draw bow past their ear (witch would make it a 30+ draw) can cause some problems :) like boom. i hope this make sense its the only way i can think to explain it, maybe someone else can chime in.
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Foot x 3 you design your bow around your stats...per your example 45#@28" you would plan your layout @2 x draw that being 56" in this case for working limb .if it is drawn to 30the plus mark it may over stress the wood witch might = boom...achieving weight is simple on theory start at say 15" get it bending to 45# and keep removing wood slowly toward your target 28" @ 45# in 1-2" steps not exceeding 45#...hope I did not leed you wrong
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Sa and Soy,
Thanks. Both of those answers make a lot of sense.
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The same thing happend to me with my first bow. Now it rests on my wall with sinew wrapped around it as a reminder NOT TO LET ANYONE DRAW MY BOW!
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Don't you just want to scream when this happens.....It's happened to me once and it WILL NEVER happen again. The string idea is excellent and I may well use it when at shows etc
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I had a guy at a tulsa gun show do it to my best and fastest bow. I told him 24 inches, and he took it to about 28, maybe just shy. My heart stoped, stomach lept, eyes dialated, and I cringed and ducked a little. He let off before I could say anything and looke at me kinda clueless, " was that too far? " I think the bow took an extra inch of set, and that is all, but it still holds 2 inches of reflex at the tips, so its still a bow. But the fps did drop a few. Love the string idea and will always use it from now on.
PS, I think I may have aged an entire year in the second it took him to yank that bow back. Wow the instant stress...
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Blimey, reading these makes me think I've been rather lucky.
Although, many many I did have a guy flex a laminated f/glass and rock maple crossbow prod the wrong way! (Arrrhhhgggg) >:(
Del