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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Bitterguy on January 07, 2012, 08:07:22 pm

Title: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Bitterguy on January 07, 2012, 08:07:22 pm
Anyone that kept up with me building my last red oak board bow probably knows that it broke (I've narrowed it down to the wood and tillering issues). My dad just drove me out to home depot and I found a real nice red oak 1x4 that i plan to split in 2. The first one I want to be a 6" 45# @ 29" pyramid longbow. Any suggestions or things I might have overlooked before I start? (pics of the board i got)
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Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 07, 2012, 09:26:27 pm
Not a great choice of boards, you would do well to back it with a strip of hickory.
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: seabass on January 07, 2012, 09:33:19 pm
when selecting red oak boards watch for severe grain runoffs.i have broke a few of those myself.have fun with it,Steve
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 07, 2012, 09:53:36 pm
That board will break on you. See how the grain is diagonal? It should be straight tip to tip. Jawge
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: artcher1 on January 07, 2012, 10:01:27 pm
Try re-cutting (diagonally) the board following the grain and perhaps you can get one bow from it. Or get another board.
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Bitterguy on January 07, 2012, 10:22:21 pm
when selecting red oak boards watch for severe grain runoffs.i have broke a few of those myself.have fun with it,Steve
As far as grain runoffs are concerned, they seem pretty decent on one of the staves but not so great on the other. I will upload pics later because right now i am on my ipod and cant post them
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Bitterguy on January 07, 2012, 10:24:15 pm
Ahhhhhh crap, did i really just waste 12 on forewood, i am f&/!ing pissed
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Ifrit617 on January 07, 2012, 10:29:13 pm
There are plenty of other things you can make with an oak board other than a bow... Just choose a different project or use it for risers or something... But I am with the others... You need better grain for a bow... Read through Jawges website at least twice and follow his build along carefully.... It will get a bow in your hands.. Good luck.

Jon

P.S. Think on the bright side.. At least it wasn't a hundred dollar stave!
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Bitterguy on January 07, 2012, 10:34:20 pm
I might just wait until the weekday when the lumber yard is open, they should have hickory there

atleast I have will seabasse's arrow shafts to keep me busy
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: HickoryBill on January 07, 2012, 11:41:21 pm
We don't live terribly far away..I would be glad to help ya in person. I could even bring some real staves. Pick your poison....Hickory, hop-hornbeam,black locust,elm,or Osage.I would recommend the Hickory or hornbeam for a beginner....Wood and lessons free of charge   lol
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: ErictheViking on January 07, 2012, 11:45:43 pm
wow, great offer from Hickorybill! I would jump on that because as everyone has said it will break.  if you back it as Eric said it would be fine. riftsawn and nice fat rings but too much grain run-off.
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Bitterguy on January 08, 2012, 12:17:39 am
I would honestly love that offer hill. Funny part i was talking about our pm session (didn't want to say our pms) to my dad while he was driving me to homedepot
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: seabass on January 08, 2012, 12:37:29 am
Hickorybill,you are a good man for that offer.Bitterguy,take Bill up on that offer.you can read all the bow building books in the world and not get what you will gain from one day with someone who knows what they are doing.good luck brother,Steve    P.S.when you get some arrows made post some pics.i would love to see them.
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Dazv on January 08, 2012, 12:19:12 pm
I would honestly love that offer hill. Funny part i was talking about our pm session (didn't want to say our pms) to my dad while he was driving me to homedepot

Man take that off up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you will learn so so so much you would be crazing to pass that offer up.
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Bitterguy on January 08, 2012, 04:05:58 pm
I would honestly love that offer hill. Funny part i was talking about our pm session (didn't want to say our pms) to my dad while he was driving me to homedepot

Man take that off up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you will learn so so so much you would be crazing to pass that offer up.

Oh trust me I am! My dad even gave me the okay!
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 08, 2012, 04:54:15 pm
Once again we Primitive Archers are showing off what kind of people we are. 

Back in the Cold War days an East German garbage truck crossed into West Berlin and dumped it's load on a side street.  The next morning the West German's loaded a truck, crossed the border, and unloaded food and medical supplies.  When the West German's were asked why  their response was "Gifts reveal their givers."

Something tells me Bill's heart is good yeller heartwood with no knots, twist, or stringfollow.

Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: HickoryBill on January 08, 2012, 05:05:38 pm
We primitive archers are few and far between. I don't mind driving 2 hours to hang ou,t shoot bows, and pass on some knowledge. I was lucky my father had me  building serious selfbows when I was 12....So I have 12 years worth of knowledge and hard learned lessons just begging to be passed on. Knowledge is a gift meant to be passed on. Always glad to help out wherever I can.
Title: Re: Okay, time to get back on my training wheels!
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 08, 2012, 07:50:58 pm
We primitive archers are few and far between. I don't mind driving 2 hours to hang ou,t shoot bows, and pass on some knowledge. I was lucky my father had me  building serious selfbows when I was 12....So I have 12 years worth of knowledge and hard learned lessons just begging to be passed on. Knowledge is a gift meant to be passed on. Always glad to help out wherever I can.
That pretty much says it all !!
Glad to know such folks still exists in good numbers !!
To see them at such a young age restores my hope for this country !
God bless you all !
Guy