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Title: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: }|{opukc on December 10, 2011, 11:56:59 am
So!
There is a claim that hornbeam is a solid like heavy maple, and whether use the back of the bow? I've never worked with this wood ..
George
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: Pat B on December 10, 2011, 12:44:08 pm
From my understanding hornbeam(Carpinus) is a marginal bow wood so I persomally would not use it for a backing.  Hop hornbeam(Ostrya), on the other hand, should make a pretty good backing for medium strength bow woods at least.
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: druid on December 10, 2011, 02:32:19 pm
Pat, is Marc St Louis working with Carpinus betulus? I saw some excellent his bows made of hornbeam.
I have a lot of hornbeam dried but not enough time to work. It seems excellent bow wood to me.
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: Pat B on December 10, 2011, 02:50:57 pm
I think Marc uses mostly Hop Hornbeam(Ostrya) but I'm not positive. He will have to let us know.
  I have a hornbeam(Carpinus) stave that has been drying 4 or 5 years but have never made a bow from it.
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: mikekeswick on December 10, 2011, 02:57:18 pm
I've made a good few hornbeam (european) bows and can report it is an excellent bow wood. I would rate it up there with any of the best. When heat treated it holds a good amount of reflex and even when not treated is still excellent. If you mean to use it as a backing then it might not be the best choice as it's back is always 'rippled'. Therefore if you cut it into backing strips the grain would be violated.
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: }|{opukc on December 10, 2011, 04:07:38 pm
This is the board. Not yet not cut, with very large, wide and straight ring, I do not think made a bow from this tree, but the back..
Dried from 10 years
I want to use it for heavy bows== :)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/1zxa1w7.jpg)

Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: mikekeswick on December 10, 2011, 05:07:50 pm
It doesn't look like european hornbeam to me...at least not the stuff i've used? The wavy grain means I definately wouldn't use it for a backing. Should be good for a belly though.
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: JackCrafty on December 10, 2011, 05:37:08 pm
I would not risk using hornbeam for a powerful bow, especially as a backing strip.  There are other woods that are much better in tension (like bamboo and hickory).
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: }|{opukc on December 11, 2011, 10:06:35 am
I would not risk using hornbeam for a powerful bow, especially as a backing strip.  There are other woods that are much better in tension (like bamboo and hickory).

Boo OK, but hickory in Bulgaria only in Mozilla and TV I can see... :(
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: druid on December 11, 2011, 02:18:49 pm
Now I am in fire. Will start one serious hornbeam bow. :D
Title: Re: Hornbeam for back!!!
Post by: }|{opukc on December 13, 2011, 03:48:26 am
Guys, another question now for belly. You are use cumaru / amarillo / for belly of warbow.? I read posts that as like IPE