Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Sabanim on July 21, 2007, 09:20:36 pm
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Hello All
I'm new here (well not really but haven't posted in a while) so I just thought I would share
some photos of some new bows we just finished working on.
Hope you like them.
Thanks
Bill
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Bamboo backed Ipe, Tiger Striped Maple, and Black Walnut and
Backed with a Python skin!!! This is the bow in the middle of the first picture.
68" NTN ...68# @ 28". This bow shot 189fps through the chrono.
It's the 2nd bow that the gentleman in the photo has made...I glued it up for him but he did everything else.
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Bamboo Backed Hickory Reflex Deflex
68" NTN and 47# @ 28". Shot 155fps.
It's 1-1/2" inches wide and tapers to 3/8" inche tips.
This is the first bow this gentleman has ever made :o
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Good looking bows you got there.189 fps with a selfbow.Very impressive.tradrick
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Welcome Bill. Nice bows! Are all the ones in the first pic self bows? If you will put up full draw pics of each bow they will be considered for bow of the month. Will you tell us a little about each? Pat
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Welcome back. some real nice looking bows, and impressive speeds.
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Hey guys
The 189fps isn't a self bow. It's bamboo backed Ipe and we put some Python skins on it to "dress it up".
It's one of the fastest bows I've ever built.
Two of the bows in the picture are self bows and the other three are bamboo backed.
I'll add some more pictures of the others.
Bill
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Here is a full draw photo of the Boo backed Epe
It's not the best angle so I'll have to try to get a better picture sometime
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hey bill! - nice bows you are making! would love to learn more details about the bamboo-ipe bow! how wide is it? how did you glue it??
frank
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Here is the Osage self bow in the first picture. It's still unfinshed here but pretty close to done.
It's 70" NTN and 45# @ 28", and it's 1-1/8" inch wide and tapers to 3/8" tips. You can see the tips are naturally slightly recurved if you look close.
It has a little bit of character to it and ALOT of knots. It's a pretty smooth shooter for a D bow. I haven't shot it through the chrono yet so I'm not sure of the arrow speed but I think it will definitly be good enough to hunt with.
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Hey Frank
The Bamboo backed Ipe bow is 1-1/4" wide at the handle and tapers down to 3/8" tips in about the last 12" of the limb. The handle
is a combination of Ipe (core) and Tiger Striped Maple and Black Walnut and it has a 1/2" wide arrow shelf cut into the pistol style grip.
I use a reflex deflex glue up form like the Rudder Bows website shows. That's where I buy alot of my supplies and they've been really helpful with tips about glue up and tillering. I use West marine two part epoxy (#105 & #205) to glue up all my bows. I really like the stuff.
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Welcome aboard,You have some fine looking bows there.
Pappy
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Here is the Hickory Selfbow. It's 66" NTN and 35# @ 28" of draw and is 1-1/2 wide and tapers to 3/8" tips. It has Ipe tips glued on it. The tiller isn't quite right on the top limb yet. There is a huge knot that is making the limb a little stiff in last foot or so. >:(
This bow is for the son of the gentleman in the photo.
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Thanks Pappy.
I got a long way to go before mine equal the ones I see you make.
Bill
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Last One... :D
Bamboo backed Hickory. 66 NTN and 55#@28". 1-1/2" wide and tapers to 3/8" tips.
This is the first bow this gentleman ever made. Shoots around 150fps.
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Yahoo! Got each set up for Backed and Self Bow consideration for July voting. Very nice bowsl.
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Wow...thanks Old Bow!
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Those are some fine looking bows ,guy's.Welcome aboard also,,sure ya'll havn't been hanging around all those Dutch ovens at Pappy's?
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Thanks Mullet.
I live in Alabama so maybe I'll run into Pappy or some of you other guys at a shoot sometime.
We go to the ASTB shoots at Tannehill State park sometimes...I bet it would be fun!
Bill
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Are there any other people on here from Alabama?
Bill
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Beautiful work on the bows Bill. I gotta try some of the IPE... I live near I20 west of Atlanta...close I guess.... ;D
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Those are some nice bows and good chrono numbers for being experienced at this stuff, for being new at it like mentioned is rather impressive!
Great thread, I too am kinda fond of those woods ;)
Rich
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Hey Frank
The Bamboo backed Ipe bow is 1-1/4" wide at the handle and tapers down to 3/8" tips in about the last 12" of the limb. The handle
is a combination of Ipe (core) and Tiger Striped Maple and Black Walnut and it has a 1/2" wide arrow shelf cut into the pistol style grip.
I use a reflex deflex glue up form like the Rudder Bows website shows. That's where I buy alot of my supplies and they've been really helpful with tips about glue up and tillering. I use West marine two part epoxy (#105 & #205) to glue up all my bows. I really like the stuff.
hey bill, thanks for the info! - one more question: the handle riser looks straight, or is that with a deflex allready??
frank
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Hey Frank
The Handle is straight. I leave it (handle area) about 1" thick and cut (taper) the rest of the core down to around 3/8" thick. Then I glue the core and bamboo together and clamp it into the form. The core is pretty weak (maybe 10 or 15 pounds) until you glue the bamboo on. Once it's all dried it's MUCH stiffer...probably 80 or 90 lbs...depending on how good a job I did thinning down the bamboo ;D
Once the glue is all dried, I take some thinner strips of wood and built up the handle area to shape it. I tried the method of reflex / deflexing the limbs and then glueing on a curved handle riser but I could never get the two curves to match up very well. Guess I'm just not that good at it or something.
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Beautiful work on the bows Bill. I gotta try some of the IPE... I live near I20 west of Atlanta...close I guess.... ;D
Thanks
I've only used the IPE a couple times but I really like it. It's amazing stuff!!
Bill
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Those are some nice bows and good chrono numbers for being experienced at this stuff, for being new at it like mentioned is rather impressive!
Great thread, I too am kinda fond of those woods ;)
Rich
Thanks Rich
I've been a lurker on here for a long time and everbody's help and tips on here has been a gold mine of information. I've learned SO much from this site and it's helped me make ALOT better bows. My first attempts were..let's say...less than steller performances :-\
I know I still have alot to learn though ;D
Thanks again
Bill
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Those are some fine looking weapons. Looking forward to seeing more of your work in the future.
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Those are some fine looking weapons. Looking forward to seeing more of your work in the future.
Thanks Hillbilly
I'm working on a couple more bows so I'll post some pictures when I get one of them done
Bill
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Don't look like you got far to go at all.Nice looking job.I make it to TanneHill once a year to the
Howard Hill shoot,Maybe see you there,or you could make it up to the Tn. Classic next year,a bunch of the Pa guys are there and we would love to have you, you can help some beginners
along[.Pass it on] :)
Pappy
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Some really nice looking bows you guys made! I especially like the knotty osage bow. ;)
Would like to see you guys make the Tn. Classic next May, I think you would like it! :)
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Hey Pappy and GregB
Just let me know the dates and if I can make it I would love to come.
I have about 20 people down here shooting and making bows so some of them might want to come also ;D
Looks like it would be a blast!
Bill
PS...here's my contact info if there's some kind of list to get on that you invite/remind people about the classic.
www.montgomerymartialarts.com
wgpkuksool@knology.net
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Very nice bows, Bill. That IPE bow has the right design for speed
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Thanks Mark!
I guess we got lucky with that one ;D I think if we shot some lighter spined arrows off it, it might break 200fps. I've tuned it every way I know of and the 189fps was the fastest speed we could duplicate. We got it to repeat the same speed three arrows in a row though so maybe that's all it's got?
I know building these bows isn't really about speed but it's nice to make a bow that even the "compound guys" have to repsect ;)
Bill
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Thought I would add a couple pictures of the finished knotty Osage long bow here.
Hope that's ok?
Thanks
Bill
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Nice knotty nightmare, looks good. Got any specs on that one.
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Hey Bill,great looking bows.What part of AL.do you live.I live in Ashville and I go to all the ASTB's shoots.Just got back this evening from the state shoot.Did you make it to this one.I can also vouch for Pappy's Tenn.Classic.His shoots the one that got me bit by the bow building bug.Great shoot great folks.tradrick
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Nice knotty nightmare, looks good. Got any specs on that one.
Hi Jbell...here ya go...these specs where posted on page one of this thread so I just moved them here...should have done that anyway.. ::)
Here is the Osage self bow in the first picture. It's still unfinshed here but pretty close to done.
It's 70" NTN and 45# @ 28", and it's 1-1/8" inch wide and tapers to 3/8" tips. You can see the tips are naturally slightly recurved if you look close. It has a little bit of character to it and ALOT of knots. It's a pretty smooth shooter for a D bow. I haven't shot it through the chrono yet so I'm not sure of the arrow speed but I think it will definitly be good enough to hunt with.
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Hey Bill,great looking bows.What part of AL.do you live.I live in Ashville and I go to all the ASTB's shoots.Just got back this evening from the state shoot.Did you make it to this one.I can also vouch for Pappy's Tenn.Classic.His shoots the one that got me bit by the bow building bug.Great shoot great folks.tradrick
Hi tradrick...I'm in Montgomery. If your ever this way look us up ;D
I didn't make it to the state shoot this year but I usually make it to the shoot that ASTB has in April.
I'm going to try to make it to Pappy's Tenn. Classic when they have it next time. I've been wanting to find some more
shoots to go to and that sounds like a good one!
Bill
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Outstanding bows. Nice job. Jawge