Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: fishfinder401 on September 27, 2011, 08:20:56 pm
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i really like things when they explode(unless it really good wood), and i have heard that willow is a terrible bow wood, so i was wondering, would a willow warbow explode,( im really hoping the answer is yes) and would heavy heat treating help it go boom ;D ;D ;D ;D
thanks
noel
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I am guessing it wood... Try to get video.... ;D ;D ;D
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. Try to get video.... ;D ;D ;D
oh, i defiantly will......
wouldn't it be funny if it actually turned out to be a good bow and stay in one piece ;D
thanks
noel
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It would certainly be a suprise..
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my guess is if anyone can get it to blow, its you >:D, Bub
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my guess is if anyone can get it to blow, its you >:D, Bub
i will try my hardest ;)( by the way, the only bow iv'e ever blown was a sho ;Drt bittersweet vine that had been dead for a few years and was constantly dry fired from a draw of 32 inches)
im thinking 60 inches long, 32+ draw and a good pair of goggles .... actually, make that a 35 draw and if it doesn't blow, it dry firing time >:D >:D >:D >:D
noel
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Not a good bow wood. My site may help you. Jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/
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Not a good bow wood.
thats the point, i want to see how much i can get a bow to self destruct >:D, and its common around m fishing area, how would you suggest making it more brittle?
thanks
noel
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fish, i'm just a smart ass, not ? your skill's, Bub
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fish, i'm just a smart ass, not ? your skill's, Bub
i know you wern't, but to tell you the truth, im surprised i haven't blown more ;D
noel
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noel you are too talented and smart to be trying to blow up a bow on purpose.
But if you do it be safe about it >:D
Lane
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thanks for the complement lane, and don't worry, i will be wearing allot of protection if i do it
can you tell have a slight destructive side >:D
noel
ps: im also interested in what this wood can actually take
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I made my very first bow out of willow when i was 9. The growth rings were extremely violated because i had chopped away wood on either side. It was long, probably around 70 inches. After 2 weeks it exploded.
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what kind of explosion ;D, did it shatter, or just break
thanks
noel
PS: im sorry about your first bow exploding
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It just snapped, nothing spectacular. But the wood was wet so dry wood would probably explode. Then I made a 45 inch willow bow and I can still pull it to about 18 inches and the back is extremely violated.
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well, i didn't have to use willow to get this to happen, i was working on a oak board bow for my cousin, i was in the middle of tillering and was holind it and drew it to about 10 inches and BANG there goes half the bottom limb into my stomach(im glad it wasn't a warbow :o)
so i know have had my first bow explosion and have had that craving fulfilled without injuries
noel
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Willow doesn't usually explode, it just takes huge amounts of set.
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wow, i couldnt imagine making a bow outta willow.
one of my brothers had taken one out on his property. we were mostly using it for firewood.
it had been cut about 10 months.
decided i'd make a spoon for my sis in law outta piece. it had such a lovely shape and looked to make a great ladle.
well, i did get the thing done but dude, what a pita! like carving wet toilet paper.
will never try carving willow again.
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wow, i couldnt imagine making a bow outta willow.
Keep it that way, it sucks for bow wood. I made a 4" wide pyramid and still got 8" of set.
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I've heard willow is bad for bow wood. I've had a couple blow up on me, luckily I haven't had the anything come back to hit me. But those explosions plus the tales from others caused me to build my tillering rig with pully system. Had a couple break on there, only one really blew up on it. But I was standing 12 ft away so all was good. I make sure I pull it on that rig well over a 100 times once I get it to draw length, not to mention all the pulling to get it tillered there. Once I have pulled it a hundred or so times, then I'll take the bow off and put some arrows through it, wearing my cap with small brim and safety glasses for the first 50-100 arrows or so. It can obviously blow up after that, but I figure those are the most likely times for it to blow up.
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My buddy, Mikey, built a now famous willow bow. He had no experience and only a few pointers from me. The tiller is pretty rough and there is nothing lovable about this bow. It has prop twist and both limbs have lateral curves making it look like a giant slalom curve. But it shoots. It's lovingly called "The Mexican Propellor". It pulls 50# at 26" and stacks like blazes. If I remember right the bow shoots about 125 fps but he can hit with it when he practices.
Limbs are almost 2" wide at the fadeouts and no taper until the last 4 inches. I'll try to get some pics of it for you.
The tree was a peachleaf willow (Salix amygdaloides) cut by a beaver. Dropped and cut to length for him and left behind where he would find it, thanks beaver.
Proves the old maxim that sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
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I made good flatbow of willow. Massive but not much physical weight. A little over 50#but it was ugly 2-hours-work. It is still somewhere in my basement I think.
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I make 2 bows with I was younger. They did'nt explode but both did'nt take on major a set.